Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Over 30 Club

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splash^talk 00:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Over 30 Club

another non notable online gaming club. Note: Over30Club, Over30club, OverThirtyClub and Over Thirty Club all redirect to Over 30 Club. User:Jsmp01 created all of them as the same article. I made them redirects. If the vote is for delete, ALL will be deleted. Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 11:45, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

• Aplogies for not having the time to learn another programming code and learning how to redirect. If it really is that big an issue take the page down, I did however think that this was the encyclopedia to encompass everything and there is quite a large number of players who play regularly on our servers who would be interested in looking up the page. If another over 30 club does come along who has a larger amount of memebers then they are more than welcome to have the page. Who votes on whether there is a deletion or not and when does it take place? user:jsmp01 12:00, 4 January 2006 (GMT)

Comment. Hi user:jsmp01. Although Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is not and "encyclopedia to encompass everything". You might like to check out Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Hope this helps. Cnwb 12:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Comment All registered editors can express a view (although it's not as simple as a majority vote). See WP:AfD for more information.

• Under what grounds in the Deletion policy and the What Wikipedia is not are you proposing this deletion? user:jsmp01 12:00, 4 January 2006 (GMT)

• I've read through all of those and the only problem I see is that it is a 'vanity page', however 'The key rule is to not write about yourself, nor about the things you've done or created. If they are encyclopedic, somebody else will notice them and write an article about them.' I am someone else, I didn't found the otc, I've only been a memeber since August.
• Delete as non-notable online gaming group, vanity, original research. http://www.over30club.net has no Alexa traffic rank (rank of 10,000 needed for website to be considered notable). —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-01-04 12:32Z

• Delete. Candidate for speedy and marked as such. - Randwicked Alex B 12:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

As for original research I'm not making any claims based on any research, unless you would like to redefine what the word research means, so thats hardly a reason for delete. Again we come back to the vanity but it states (as quoted above) not writing about yourself, well I'm not. --Jsmp01 12:42, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

• Original research has a specific meaning in Wikipedia, please read about it in the linked article. I am not redefining "research", but Wikipedia is clear that it is not a publisher of original thought.
• Vanity has a specific meaning in Wikipedia, please read about it in the linked article. It is not "writing about yourself" -- that is just one example, and your claim that you are not part of the community you are writing about is also disputable. Here is a better definition quoted:

Vanity information is considered to be any information that was placed in any Wikipedia article that might create an apparent conflict of interest, meaning any material that presents the appearance of being intended to in any way promote the personal notoriety of the author, or one of the close family members or associates of the author.

By the way, this is pretty boring as far as AFDs go. We delete online gaming clubs every day. Cheers, —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-01-04 12:53Z

• Have you considered putting that in the What Wikipedia is not next to the bit about minor bands? Would save you a lot of trouble, if its against the rules then delete it, there is also an edit on the otc page that is related. I apologise for causing so much trouble --Jsmp01 13:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • WP:BAI states it's a bad idea to write about yourself or a club/organization you're part of. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:29, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

This would be a lovely thesis except for the fact that since Wiki seeks verifiability and sources, the best verified source is the person who belongs to the organisation, not its worst enemy, seeking to impose an adverse POV -- SockpuppetSamuelson 15:31, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete non-notable group, NPOV issues. -- (aeropagitica)  15:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete as non-notable gaming club. (Although I am an over-30 gamer, so I'll be checking them out.) You can call me Al 15:48, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per aeropagitica. --kingboyk 19:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.