Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ornelas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep (no consensus). We have 4d-2k, but I will use my discretion here and call this a "keep". The argument presented that the article is original research is not substantiated. The article is a list of people with the surname Ornelas and is perfectly verifiable, and not just the random thoughts of some person. Disambiguation pages, like this one, to distinguish between people with the same surname are very common on Wikipedia, and are useful navigational aids for readers. In this case several of the people listed arguably pass WP:BIO guidelines and can have biographies (for instance, the page lists an elite football player in Norway, and a Portuguese olympic athlete), even though there is only one bluelink on the list currently. (If there are names on the list which don't deserve biographies, they may be culled from the list). I find the keep arguments presented by SilkTork convincing. Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ornelas

I'm not convinced that we need this dab page. Of its twenty or so links, all but one are red, and the one that isn't red is unlikely to ever garner an incoming link. Many of the listings have very questionable notability or ambiguity. We could blank it or redirect it, but I'd like links to this page to show up in red. --Smack (talk) 23:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as OR. Someone made up a random criteria and created a list. Listcruft, non notable list. Tychocat 01:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment a page like this is done with a last name. However, I can't see any notability on any of those links. Yanksox 03:43, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Yanksox. --djrobgordon 04:52, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. If this is deleted then hundreds of other surname pages on Wikipedia must also be deleted in all fairness. --UniReb 11:29, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
  • After being a longtime dedicated user and a large contributor to Wikipedia, I officially quit Wikipedia as of right now for personal reasons. I believe Wikipedia is an unfriendly and biased environment." --UniReb 12:07, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep - The principle of dab pages for surnames is well established. Deleting a surname dab page because it has just started and is currently red links is perhaps the wrong approach. Give the page some time to develop, then see if it needs deleting. If this page had been hanging around for a year I would agree that it's not working, but it has only just started and needs supporting and encouraging not deleting. SilkTork 11:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete I's not OR but it's utterly pointless.--Runcorn 19:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.