Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Optimus Prime (person) (3rd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Petros471 17:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Optimus Prime (person)

So I take it that someone having his name changed to that of a cartoon character is enough criteria for an encyclopedia article to be written about him. Well in that case I think I'll go have my name changed to "Elmer Fudd" tomorrow so that pretty soon someone will be creating an article about me. Seriously now, this is a blatant violation of WP:Vanity and how it has survived two previous deletion nominations I have no earthly idea. Please do Wikipedia a favor and have this article done away with.--Conrad Devonshire ^Talk 18:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Previous AfD's:

1. Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Optimus Prime (person) No Consensus
2. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Optimus Prime (person) No Consensus

• Delete Insufficient claim to notability. Fan1967 No, make it Rocket J. Squirrel, pending the official name change from the court 19:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• merge From now on, I shall be know as......Betty. but seriously, should be mentioned on the Optimus_Prime page. antmoney85
• Merge - to Optimus Prime. Has apparently had some limited press coverage, so a mention in the OP article seems like the thing to do. Wickethewok 19:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per Wickethewok. Agent 86 20:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Optimus Prime. — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 20:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete If not deleted, merge CalJW 21:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. Media exposure is adequate for at least adding a footnote to history about this complete nut. JFW | T@lk 22:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per JFW. jgp 22:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per Wickethewok.
• Keep. The Optimus Prime article is already 45 kilobytes long, adding even more peripherally-related material doesn't seem like a good idea. In fact, it's been merged in the past and got split back out again. Bryan 01:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete with prejudice Hobbeslover ^{talk/contribs} 01:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The Optimus Prime article is already 45 kilobytes long, adding even more peripherally-related material doesn't seem like a good idea. In fact, it's been merged in the past and got split back out again. I conclude, therefore, that even hardcore Transformers fans don't think this eejit is important. -- GWO
• Keep Name change is per se notable. Eluchil404 12:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Everything that's notable about him is related to Optimus Prime the cartoon character. Just give him "honourary mention" on that article. Hong Qi Gong 16:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete (or at worst, merge.) Just changing your name to a cartoon character doesn't make you notable. It makes you slightly notable in context of the cartoon character. But if they don't want him, delete the article. Ehurtley 20:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. This guy was a TV news story that became a significant enough internet meme to warrant his place here. I know Google ranking isn't a definitive test, but the WKYC news story and Prime's weblog turn up #2-3 on Google for 'Optimus Prime', this Wikipedia page specifically has recently been linked to by a high-traffic news site (as mentioned in the talk page) and turns up #5 on Google. And this is for a story that first broke in 2003. Wikipedia pages about notable 'unusual names' are explicitly allowed. If you go change your name to Elmer Fudd and manage a TV news story and significant internet publicity out of it, more power to ya. The only issue I had was with a disambiguation link pointing here which I removed (nobody is confusing this person with the cartoon character). radimvice 03:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. An unusual name change is not notable on its own, but I suppose this fellow deserves a brief mention at the bottom of the cartoon charcter's article.--Pharos 17:49, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - the OP article itself is too long as is. This person is a different entity, and deserves their own page, albeit necessarily small. Wikipedia is not Paper. -- nae'blis _(talk) 17:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Let me clarify that IMO the man calling himself "Optimus Prime" deserves not more than one line of the article about the actually notable cartoon character. I'm certainly not proposing to move the whole thing.--Pharos 17:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Your POV is showing: he's not just "calling himself" Optimus Prime, he has legally changed his name. And the Optimus Prime article itself has spun this segment out on its own repeatedly. -- nae'blis _(talk) 20:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
      • No, I have no POV against legal name-changing. Of course it is perfectly appropriate (and even mildly interesting) for Mr. Prime to have changed his name; I just don't think it's an encyclopedically notable event. Of course a vote for 'merge' implies that there should not be full biographical details of the real-life individual at the Optimus Prime article.--Pharos 20:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - I vote to keep this page; Prime is a significant internet meme and warrants having a small page devoted to him. For whatever reason, one or two of the lines from that news article have lived on in my mind for years, and I know the same is true of several of my friends.70.241.88.187 11:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - I say keep it, how often dose someone change there name to such a strange one, and since he saw the fictional Prime as a father figure, it gives credit and reinforcement to the fictional characters personality, and how his character has impacted so many that grew up in the 80's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.4.167 (talk • contribs)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.