Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Operating system advocacy

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The result of the debate was No Consensus, default to keep 70%+/- to keep. Jtkiefer ^{T | @ | C} ----- 04:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Operating System advocacy

This article should be deleted because it is a cesspool of original research, with a near absolute lack of refrences to any of the points and counter points. In fact the authors seem to encourage this more by suggesting in the talk page that this article only talk about current debates about current operating systems, leaving out anything historical, refrenceable, and truely encylopedic. put up for deletion by IP:68.127.144.118

Listing was orphaned, now properly listed on AfD. My vote is below. — Phil Welch 03:29, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

• Delete for the reasons stated. Atlant 14:29, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete I agree. Not sure what the point of this article is except for people to make complaints about systems they don't like. Avenger Penguin 16:00, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• This article has the potential to be an encylopaedic account of the phenomenon of operating system advocacy and some of the most notable debates. The introduction starts off well, infact with the exception of the last line of the introduction everything before the table of contents is of high quality. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of the rest of the article. Weak delete pending a brilliant re-write. Thryduulf 16:44, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Idleguy 09:48, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep I think the article provides some valuable "talking points" in the comparison of operating systems. Especially in the Unix sections, I forget what the advantages and disadvantages of the different systems are; and as a Mac zealot I'm reminded of the problems with my favorite system, as well, when I reccommend it to people. Perhaps it should be re-purposed or something; I agree that it's mainly opinion, not historical but I do see it as a useful reference. justfred 09:48, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. but clean up and add references. Pamri • Talk 13:33, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep' The content could do with an awful lot more expanding and NPVing, but I would like to see such an article. Certainly many people feel strongly about the issue, but that's a good reason to have a summary of such opinion. Comparison of operating systems has useful technical overview, but surely there is room for a more userfriendly comparison of strengths and weaknesses that should be kept out of 'Comparison_of_operating_systems' and Operating system; the differences between two is important, and not suited to the article on either.
• I, at least, was hoping for a reasoned comparison when I clicked the link.
• The name should probably be changed to something more neutral or merged back into 'Comparison_of_operating_systems', and this be a redirect, or a stub with a discussion of the history of advocacy itself rather than true comparison. --Jack
• Keep assuming it can be cleaned up. --Shawn K. Quinn 06:15, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. Actual notable phenomenon. Drop the arguments for and against OS's and focus more on the reality of platform zealotry and platform arguments. — Phil Welch 03:27, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
  • That was my opinion the last time around, and it remains unchanged. The neutral point of view and no original research policies must be adhered to. This article requires a huge dose of cleanup, including excision of everything in the pro&con lists that cannot be sourced or attributed to a specific proponent, which is pretty much all of it right now. Uncle G 18:01, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep (sort of): — There's interesting information here, but the premise of the page is goofy and unencylopedic. "Operating system advocacy" — a grandiose and somewhat misleading title for what is mostly just a list of pros and cons of various operating systems. I suggest renaming and rewriting the intro paragraphs to something better suited to the content that follows. — Cory Maylett 03:42, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
  • That's the cart before the horse somewhat. The content that follows the introduction is a huge chunk of original research without either citations or attributions. Rewriting the introduction to match the rest, essentially refactoring this article as a rewrite of comparison of operating systems, is both basing the article around the original research and pointless. We already have that article. The focus of this article, per the title, is the advocacy, and not the actual features of the various operating systems themselves. There's a possibility of an encyclopaedia article on operating system advocacy. People have written about it.

    The "goofy and unencyclopaedic" title relates to the names of several Usenet newsgroups where such arguments have occurred for the past 20 years, by the way, and is the generally accepted term for what transpires within them. Uncle G 18:01, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

• weak keep. considering theres been quite alot of edits and discussion by different users Astrokey44 04:01, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. Sure, the article isn't perfect now, but that's no reason to delete it. After a cleanup and the addition of references this will bee a good and encyclopedic article. --Apyule 07:21, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. This article as put to VfD in January of this year. The result was a decision to keep. --Apyule 07:49, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Definitely a notable topic among us geeks, gives us some talking points and reasons for why the other sides think the way they do, and it was kept in a previous AfD. --Idont Havaname 14:24, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - Needs cleanup, NPOVing and refs, but a worthy article nontheless. ≈ jossi ≈ 21:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep - double jeopardy, anonymous nomination. Andrew pmk | Talk 21:46, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Contains virtually no information that is not contained in the title. Operating systems advocacy is the practice of advocating an operating system. Followed by a list. An opinionated list of pairs of operating systems, without even a note as to why specific operating systems are paired. A blank page could become an encyclopedic article, too, but we don't keep them. Dpbsmith (talk) 22:34, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep subject to heavy cleanup. Shauri 19:40, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

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