Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One Hand Clapping

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Luigi30 (Ταλκ) 02:36, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] One Hand Clapping

group with one independantly released single in the 70's. Non-notable. I'm No Parking and I approved this message 03:33, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Weak Delete. Their then-bassist is moderately notable, but... rodii 03:44, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep No Parking, quit following my edit trail.--Ewok Slayer --(U | T | C) 03:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand. ‣ᓛᖁ♀ᑐ 03:54, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

*Merge relevant parts to Yngwie_Malmsteen and Blackmore's_Night Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 04:01, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Fine Idea, but someone keeps deleting my version of how to clap with one hand in the Koan article.--Ewok Slayer --(U | T | C) 04:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Ewok Slayer, I'm afraid I have to agree that your description of actually clapping with the fingers of hand doesn't belong in the serious Koan article (nor this page about the rock band). It's immaterial, but I think it's also debatable whether that meets the definition of clapping too, though I've heard it from many sources. -Meegs 05:28, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

For Everyone's reference-Clap-v. tr.-To strike together with a sharp sound, as one hard surface on another-Dictionary.com--Ewok Slayer --(U | T | C) 05:39, 4 December 2005 (UTC) Delete per nom. Don't think I've seen that density of redlinks before. Note that condition 6 for Notability and Music Guidelines states "...later joined a band that is extremely notable. Deep Purple was extremely notable; that doesn't mean that everything that Blackmoor touches is extremely notable.

  • Keep - changing my vote to keep, based on WP:MUSIC criteria 6. Sorry, didn't realise it was a criteria as IMO this band in itself is not sufficiently notable to warrant a keep. But policy is policy... Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 07:55, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
    • I think the word you are actually looking for (and the word actually used at WP:MUSIC) is guideline, not policy, so we don't have to keep. Even if it was policy, I think this would be a fine time to invoke Wikipedia:Ignore all rules. Saberwyn 10:42, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Actually, guideline 6 recommends redirect to Deep Purple or Blackmoor or Yngwie Malmsteen or whatever. And so do I. Regards, Ben Aveling 11:04, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as unverifiable. Google searches for "one hand clapping" "nick pepper" and "one hand clapping" "felix warre" return 1 and 0 hits respectively, and that one hit is this Wikipedia article. As the article is not otherwise sourced, I don't think we can even prove this band existed. ESkog | Talk 18:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Changing my vote to redirect per Ben Aveling's research below, and WP:MUSIC criterion 6. ESkog | Talk 06:11, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: Guideline 6 states, "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise extremely notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such.". This is what we are arguing over here essentially. Given that the band itself isn't notable, but one of its members are. It seems that guideline 6 can be taken either as a "keep" or as a "redirect", so I think that we will have to use our own interpretation on that one. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 01:34, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
A few hits for "One Hand Clapping" + "curve of the earth", eg [1] or [2]. Still not obviously notable enough for its own page, as opposed to a paragraph elsewhere, but seems to be real. Ben Aveling 02:17, 5 December 2005 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.