Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olivia James-Baird (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete without prejudice to creating a sourced article. Uncited biographies of living people are not acceptable. --BigDT 04:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Olivia James-Baird

Olivia James-Baird (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Fails WP:N: not the subject of multiple, non-trivial coverage, perhaps because she has only made a handful of appearances on a single show. There are thousands of actors who make such cameo appearances, but none of them have articles because they do not meet WP:N. This should be no different. hbdragon88 17:26, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. Listed in IMDb. Has rather more than "a handful" of appearances, and also probably notable as a gymnast. --Eastmain 18:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
  • The threshold for inclusion in IMDb is extraordinarily low. For instance, many of the cast members of Manos: The Hands of Fate only appeared in one film, and all of them have their own IMDb pages [1] [2] [3]. A Google search -wikipedia shows about 3200 hits, all related to Power Rangers, nothing about her gymnastic career. hbdragon88 19:08, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
    • You don't even have to have a credit to get on the IMDb.[4] --Charlene 20:11, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Being on the IMDb is absolutely no proof of notability whatsoever. She doesn't pass WP:BIO from what I see, either from the article or from Google hits. --Charlene 20:11, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep This article already survived an AfD, and I agree with the decision. Also, there are a lot of important Google hits. Citation is needed, though, but I don't see as a detriment as whether to keep this article or not, because it can be cited. Evilclown93 20:26, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete the current article and redirect to the show page. My scan of Google's 103 unique results reveals nothing that might save this article. Erechtheus 01:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 01:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Appearing in 6 episodes of a 35 episode series as a villain lead would, I suggest, meet the "significant roles" criteria in WP:BIO. Would be nice if there were better references though. Assize 11:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:BIO - judging from the four Factiva references I can find (all from The Press (Christchurch) and none of them actually articles - just lists of results with many other names listed), she is not a notable gymnast, and the lack of coverage (even an interview?) of her in other publications suggests WP:RS would be too high a bar for this subject to meet. Orderinchaos 21:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Delete I'd have said Keep to give editors time to cite sources, but I see it has had the exact same problem a year ago and nothing has been done to fix it. IMDB is not an indication of notability/verity -it is an indication of maybe having once been in a film. It is exhaustive and you can get yourself included in it easily, however obscure you might be.NZ forever 05:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.