Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ogre Tribe Org
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (Non admin closure). Qst 15:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ogre Tribe Org
I had tagged this article for notability on October 26th. The tag was removed and notability is still not established from secondary reliable sources per WP:FICT. Additionally, this is a plot summary with no real world context, see WP:NOT#PLOT. If reliable sources were available, I'm sure they would have been added instead of the tag simply being removed. Pilotbob 00:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep as it is a list of characters from a notable television series. I had found secondary sources that mention them, and they are therefore notable due to WP:FICT. The plot summary can be fixed by cutting out said content. This is the seventh particular article in the area that you have put up for deletion and it is getting really tiring now.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep per Ryulong. Both a bad faith nom and a further lack of willingness to properly review a topic before deletion. It requires cleanup by any number of methods (preferably debulleting and a bit more context) but not deletion. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep: Valid content fork from Hyakujuu Sentai Gaoranger, if Ryulong's secondary sources are added. Needs about 3 kilograms of cleanup in addition to sourcing, but it seems to pass WP:FICT's notability requirements. Failing to satisfy WP:NOT#PLOT is not a valid deletion criteria -- it's a cleanup criteria. (And a comment: according to WP:FICT, the first step after failing to find sources would be to try merging this into Hyakujuu Sentai Gaoranger, not jumping straight to AfD. It would be nice if editors held themselves to the same guideline that they wave at articles.) —Quasirandom 21:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. These characters aren't notable by themselves; appearing on a popular show does not establish notability. Substantial third party references do, and there are none here. Nobody's writing research papers on these guys, as they would with characters like Tom Sawyer or Holden Caulfield or Howard Roark. -- Mikeblas 23:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Abstain I would like to switch my vote to abstain at this time due to this investigation WP:ANI#User:Pilotbob. Pilotbob —Preceding comment was added at 07:43, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep as per Ryulong. The large number of articles tagged by the nominator and the short amount of time before they were moved to AfD is overwhelming any reasonable attempt to improve them. Edward321 04:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete I think that the comments by Someguy0830 designed to discredit the nominator are uncivil and unsupported by any evidence, and should be struck from the record. This article has no primary sources, so verifiication or cleanup is virtually impossible; there is no record of where this material has been copied and pasted from. Secondly, this material is heavily in universe and hence fails WP:NOT#PLOT; there is nothing in this article worth salvaging. Lastly, the points raised by the nominator Pilotbob are totally valid; this article has no real-world notability, as there are no reliable sources to distinguish this fancruft. --Gavin Collins 12:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment No reason to assume that this material was "copied and pasted" from elsewhere.Rray 15:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Per practically everyone else here. Rray 15:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
