Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Of Mice and Mayhem

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete (less weight given to the numerous suspect sock "votes").--Ezeu 18:01, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Of Mice and Mayhem

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A nice looking webcomic, but little to no evidence of notability. Delete as advertising and vanity. --InShaneee 14:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

• This has been listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Webcomics/Deletion. –Abe Dashiell ^(t/c) 14:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I've already done the Comixpedia thing. It's here. –Abe Dashiell ^(t/c) 14:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
• I was unaware of the Comixpedia site and the service it provides. Though the reference to this comic in Comixpedia as a Wikipedia import would be somewhat sufficient, I remain opposed to deletion (I believe it is notable enough given its quality and high regard amongst the FanFic community) –BabylonLegacy 11:47, 29 May 2006.
  • Note: User's second edit, has edited only this page and the page in discussion. --InShaneee 23:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: It appears to be an important part of the fandom. -- Eyrian (talk • contribs) 01:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: It's part of an overall bigger picture, alerting fans of an additional branch. -ADW 8:15, 30 May 2006. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.228.35.235 (talk • contribs) .
  • Note: User's only edit. --InShaneee 23:34, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: I like this entry... keep it. Don't listen to these naysayers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.55.59.201 (talk • contribs)
  • Note: User's fifth edit. --InShaneee 23:34, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: What do you mean, no evidence of notability!? It's one of the most spectacular fan-produced works I've ever seen! It's been a huge influence in many areas of the Disney fandom and is often cited in a wide variety of sites. Definitely a "keeper". ---Ray Jones--- --24.170.36.86 15:09, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: User's only two edits are to this discussion. --InShaneee 23:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: This fan-made work has probably brought more people to fandom than the series itself. I'd even call it a milestone in the history of both fan fiction and fan art. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.171.8.229 (talk • contribs)
  • Note: User's only edit. --InShaneee 23:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: This comic is vital to the Rescue Ranger fandom, and is an important part of said fandom's artistic and fanfiction history. Please keep it! 152.163.100.201 05:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)RangerReady23152.163.100.201 05:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: This comics quality in both art and writing makes it more then sufficient in terms of notability, I strongly think it should be kept on wikipedia 128.195.111.119 06:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC) Gabb
  • Note: User's fourth edit. --InShaneee 23:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, no claim of notability in article, no reliable sources. See WP:WEB for what is meant by notability. -- Dragonfiend 13:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: I'm not going to weigh in on whether the article should be deleted or not. Perhaps it'd make more sense as part of the main "Rescue Rangers" article. However, I think it's definitely notable, just as much as other major furry works like Jack or DMFA which aren't under debate. It's really a fully-fledged fan-created graphic novel, and was created and released as such. It's an accomplishment which is fairly unique, as most other comics are episodic on-going affairs, often times lacking a single cohesive storyline. Considering OMaM's readership, if it were a regularly comic, instead of a completed work, this discussion probably wouldn't even be coming up. I was directed to this work by Mat Sherer of Badly Drawn Kitties fame, in an off-handed comment he made about a year ago in his blog. (Unfortunately, the Internet Archive is down at the moment, so I couldn't try and look for it. If corroboration is necessary, I'm sure he wouldn't mind speaking for himself. Heck, why not ask notables in community to weigh in?) Mat isn't even necessarily a part of the CDRR-specific fandom, but he seems well-connected to other notables in the community, and his comment mentioned the waves this comic was making. I think that speaks loudly enough about the level of impact it's had. --BeeBot 17:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: User's only edit. --InShaneee 23:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: Though this may be the only page I've contributed to, I hold no association with "Of Mice and Mayhem" or its author. I use wikipedia quite regularly. However, this is the first time I've come across a page that was nominated for deletion. Given the contents of the page and the subject it was referencing, I was compelled to open a wikipedia account and voice my opinion on the matter. I would also like to note that I have not participated in alerting anyone to this page's impending deletion. I am merely a voice among many who feels this subject is notable enough to warrant a reference on this site. And though I am aware this in not up for a vote, I'm hoping the administrators will at least take this under consideration and reconsider. –BabylonLegacy 12:04, 1 June 2006.
• Delete I saw this page ages ago, and considered deleting it. However, I put it off to go after even more useless webcomic crap that we had lying around and never came back to it. The guy seems to have some iota of talent, but the arguments above say it's notable to the Chip n Dale fandom? That really isn't enough, because I'd vote to delete an article on the Chip n Dale fandom any day. - Hahnchen 05:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: There must be dozens of pages about fandoms, series, webcomics and shows that aren't as noteable as "Of Mice And Mayhem". Yet they deserve a place to. Furthermore, most people got it wrong that it's important to Rescue Rangers fandom. It's considered an accomplishment in the whole furry and anthromorphic fandom. Most of these fans, when asked if they know this comic, are likely to give a positive answer. Even if some have never watched the series itself. And the comic's creator still recieves praise for his work. I find the claim that it has little noteability very dubious. ---CD--- 11:34 2 June 2006 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.45.51.85 (talk • contribs)
  • Note: User's only edit. --InShaneee 23:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: If users only edit how come the top directions say anyone is free to discuss this subject, how come when I go to actually edit the page the top reminds me that I am not logged in but it still says I am free to edit the pages, and how come later in the directions it says Please sign your posts on this page by adding ( the squiggles ) at the end ( if only users can edit then they wouldn't have to do this ). Happy editing!, I think anyone is allowed to edit and you don't have to only be a user 01:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)Gabb —The preceding manually-signed comment was added by 128.195.111.119 (talk • contribs).
• Delete. The fandom doesn't matter. And this particular fan-made comic book(s) doesn't look to be much different. Nifboy 04:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete It looks like very good fan fiction, but this does not make it notable. Google returns 96 hits, 44 unique. Looking through them shows no reputable primary sources. Alexa rank of site is 4.6 million, and the linked-to review site has no Alexa rank. This possibly deserves a mention at Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers (which it already has), but not its own article. lowercase 10:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This debate doesn't seem to hinge much on whether or not someone is a fan of the show, but it's notability. I'm all for the increase of free information, and I didn't even know about Of Mice and Mayhem until I was checking the article for the RR show to see the chronological airing of the episodes. I'm glad the information was there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.28.187.177 (talk • contribs).
  • Note: IP's only edit. lowercase 05:28, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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