Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Odell Brewing Company

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 00:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Odell Brewing Company

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Ad for a non-notable brewing company, no reliable sources. My speedy tag was removed. Corvus cornixtalk 00:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not yet convinced the speedy deletion request is justified. The brewery seems to be a semi-established one and much what article content there is is not very different in character from other existing brewery articles. Given the author appears to be still working on this we should perhaps wait a while and see if a worthwhile article emerges. --BrucePodger (talk) 00:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid keep criterion. And there are no reliable sources. Corvus cornixtalk 00:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, fair point on the other articles' existance not being enough to justify this one. With regard to lack of sources do you mean in the article or at all? A quick search reveals lots of mentions elsewhere, whether those are reliable or significant I've not had time to investigate. I'm still in favour of waiting to see if the article improves since it looks like its still a work in progress, perhaps some relevant sources will be added? Ultimately I might change my mind and agree with deleation, but at present it seems premature. --BrucePodger (talk) 00:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Keep Per the availibility of significant sources including [1] and [2] and [3] and [4] and [5] and [6] and [7] and [8] and [9] and [10]. These took 10 minutes and google to find. These are all extensive and independent; beyond just establishing that others have noted this company (the basis of notability), these could be put together into quite a good set of refs to write a really good article. They've won numerous awards, not only for their beers apparently, but for their company (the last is to Coloradoan Magazine, that named them the Best Business for 2007). Given the relative easy in turning these up, there's plenty out there to establish that this meets WP:N and WP:CORP requirements. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 03:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep and cleanup. Small breweries market consumer products that usually generate independent, third party literature, as Jayron32 points out. Being brick and mortar businesses with physical plants and limited distribution areas; so the risk of using Wikipedia for self-promotion is relatively small. They therefore typically pass the business notability guidelines. This one has competed and won awards at the Great American Beer Festival, which admittedly has large numbers of categories and therefore large numbers of winners, but it means that they have been noticed by third party sources. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:27, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Odell are a notable small brewer and the article is OK. It would be nice to see it expanded, but it shouldn't be deleted. Bardcom (talk) 16:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.