Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obrad Zelić

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Coredesat 04:50, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Obrad Zelić

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Somewhat borderline, but three factors make me believe this fails WP:PROF. First, no references. Second, no assertion of real notability. Third, creator has only two other principal contributions. Biruitorul 03:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Weak keep for now. Needs work obviously, but from a glance at the article he appears to be at least semi-notable. Like you said though, it's borderline. K. Lásztocska 03:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Conditional Keep If any of the items under the "awards" subheading can be sourced i'd say he meets notability,--Cube lurker 05:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. —David Eppstein 15:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete The only "notable" thing I possibly see is the one "most notable" award mentioned. However, I doubt that this award in itself is notable. The Wikipedia articles on Tesla and Pupin do not even mention this award. The website of the Tesla Memorial Society looks rather amateurish and their list of Tesla-Pupin Medalists ends in 2000, so the claim that Zelić received this medal cannot be verified. --Crusio 16:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletions. —Espresso Addict 18:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak delete The awards dont seem to be notable, and there is no assertion of anything convincingly notable in the research. Weak, because someone who knows the country but be able to get some more information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (talk • contribs)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Espresso Addict 00:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletions. —Espresso Addict 00:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete so far Crusio's reasoning sounds most convincing. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and cleanup. Subject's membership in the National Academy of the Serbian Medical Society is verifiable.[1] He is in a prominent place too. Academy membership says that he is regarded as one of Serbia's best. A Google Scholar search says that his publications are cited worldwide. The Ozosept seems to check out, but the Assn. of Inventors site appears to be in Serbo-Croatian.[2] Most of the web content about him is probably not in English. Notability aside, the article is a mess. • Gene93k 02:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak delete per DDG. STORMTRACKER 94 20:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Although the article lacks proper explanations of notability and references, this may be explained by the language barrier. In general, we should be more patient with article stubs that can only be verified by foreign language sources or paper sources. There is a lot of knowledge outside the internet. This article deserves a Template:bio-notability tag, but not deletion.--Yannick 04:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Delete My speculation about the language barrier has been shot down by Duja below.--Yannick 22:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)]
  • Weak keep The article is a mess and needs to be cleaned up and lacks proper quotes. Neozoon 22:57, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. It has been moved from the original with no discussion and no references for the spelling change, and it still contains no references that would support any spelling of his name. Gene Nygaard 15:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - A search for "Zelic o" on PubMed only returns 17 articles, and only one of these is in a notable journal. Tim Vickers 21:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - There are no source citations at all. No one could rustle up any at all? Plus the article does not link to anything else. On Google the third link after the Wikipedia links mentions "periodontal disease". And the sublink under the fourth says "AUTOIMMUNE THYROID STIMULATION IN HYPERTHYREOSIS". I am unclear who the article is about. --Mattisse 00:19, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Few comments from a native. The awards in question are:
    • Nikola Tesla bronze medal of Belgrade Association of Inventors [3]. Really not a big deal.
    • Can't find a source for the award from Serbian Medical Society. He is a head of one secretariate though.[4]
    • What is written in the article is likely mostly true, but it's written in an apologetic tone. The entire article sounds like a CV though; the creator likely had it at hand rather than consulting miscellaneous sources. Pavle Zelić (which would likely pass notability criteria, but only just) also comes from the same person, in both English and Serbian wikipedia (sr:Obrad Zelić, sr:Pavle Zelić). And I really, really, don't like it. Duja► 11:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per Crusio, I have the same concerns about this article as I recently did about the Stanley Dunin one. Burntsauce 16:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.