Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oblivion Beckons

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The result was redirected to Byzantine (band) nothing to merge as ablum details already in Byzantine (band) article, providing album meets notability requirements redirect can be removed and article expanded. Gnangarra 06:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oblivion Beckons

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Future album in violation of WP:CRYSTAL Will ^(talk) 17:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep WP:CRYSTAL doesn't mention albums... but it does specifically allow for inclusion of notable and likely to occur future events. Nominator gives no reason to suspect these albums won't be released so, at most, they should be redirected to the notable band releasing the album, not deleted. Redirection doesn't require AFD. --W.marsh 18:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The exact date of the album's release is on the page now, both singles have already been released on both the band's MySpace page and on satellite radio. 71.124.58.244 17:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bainer (talk) 10:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete fails WP:MUSIC, no assertion of notability (we don't just assume notability), and we're not a crystal ball. /Blaxthos 16:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:MUSIC and WP:CRYSTAL. WP:CRYSTAL doesn't exclude albums. --Brewcrewer 18:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. I went through the 127 distinct hits Google offered me and found a few MTV references supporting the dates (I've added those to the article), so the verifiability portion of WP:Crystal seems no longer to apply. The band is notable, hence I'm with W.marsh that if the album itself is not judged notable stand-alone, the article should be at least redirected and probably merged, at least in sourced portion. I'm a bit iffy on the question of whether or not the album is currently notable enough for a stand-alone. The heavy metal world has an amazingly well-organized group of blogs, but reliable sources are lacking. The release is notable enough that MTV included a few words from the band's guitarist in one of its articles, but coverage is hardly substantial. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:51, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

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