Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oak Tree, County Durham

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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. Sjakkalle (Check!) 14:22, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oak Tree, County Durham

This is a page that is admittedly about a "small" village. Do little hamlets get their own articles? Ryan Prior 20:11, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

  • Yes. Keep Dunc|☺ 20:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Examples? I'm skeptical, but I'm also new, so I'd like to see other discussions. Ryan Prior 20:24, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
Firstly, who needs examples?! Just because most hamlets do not yet have their own article doesn't mean they shouldn't - hopefully in time they will. Secondly, I'm sure there are plenty of small villages with articles on Wikipedia. In fact, I think you'll find plenty of articles representing small geographical locations around the world. UkPaolo 20:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Vera, Oklahoma Keep. Dsmdgold 22:00, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
I don't wish to bite the newcomer but perhaps if you were not familiar with the inclusion criteria you should have checked up before listing this on VfD. — Trilobite (Talk) 16:32, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I can't find this village in google. Does it even exist? — RJH 20:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yes, my wife has an aunt who lives near there. ~~~~ 22:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ah, the dreaded Google test. Just because something doesn't show up in Google doesn't mean it doesn't exist!. Vast, vast, swathes of encyclopedic human knowledge are not included in Google's index. — Trilobite (Talk) 16:32, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Comment: I can't verify it. If somebody lives in the area or has a directory, please post! Ryan Prior 20:24, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
If you had bothered to note the grid reference linked in the article which you put up for deletion, it's easy to check that the place does exist. Check on the OS Map! UkPaolo 20:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Keep this hamlet then. :) — RJH 16:59, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • keep, I'm assuming it's verifiable because of the grid reference, regardless of google results. Kappa 20:25, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Can I crete an article for Nonexistant Ghost Town, Nevada if I say it's between Tucson and Las Vegas? Ryan Prior 20:29, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
  • You could do that, but hopefully someone would tag it with {{accuracy}} or something, and it would be checked out and deleted. Kappa 20:36, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • The difference being that this place actually exists and "Nonexistant Ghost Town" does not. — Trilobite (Talk) 16:32, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep it. It's a real place. NatusRoma 20:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Real place with two hotels and a train station. -- BD2412 talk 20:39, 2005 Jun 7 (UTC)
    • ...and if you have a good calling plan and are really keen to verify, call the nearby Parkmore Hotel & Leisure Club, 08700 60 10 60.
  • Strong keep. In answer to your question, yes - small villages should get their own articles! I'd be against deleting any geographical location. Granted, the article doesn't contain much info, but the addition of a stub like this means people are much more likely to add to it in future. UkPaolo 20:49, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep per UkPaolo. Ridethefire3211 21:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Real place. Towns, villages, etc. are inherently notable. This is what encyclopedias are for. 23skidoo 23:17, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep even small villages. - DS1953 23:19, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, I'm convinced. Thanks for the clarifications, all. Ryan Prior 23:42, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Hamlets deserve articles and it exists. -CunningLinguist 01:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand. Real place with pubs, railway station and community of interest. Capitalistroadster 01:25, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I've expanded the article from the two-sentence stub with some information of a general nature. I don't actually know the place, I was just creating stubs on all villages in County Durham a few months ago. It now reads more like a Rambot-style template article, waiting for someone who knows it well to add some more information about its history or something. — Trilobite (Talk) 18:00, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep all real places except rocks in the middle of water that have no particular notability even though they have a name. RickK 07:18, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, as per convention. James F. (talk) 14:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep of course. All villages are notable. — Trilobite (Talk) 16:32, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. It is larger than the Seldom_Seen_Roadhouse geographical location, though probably slightly less notable.--Takver 03:15, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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