Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OH!? Please ♥ Mister Postman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, but if the article is not merged or improved in a timely manner feel free to renominate. --Coredesat 07:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] OH!? Please ♥ Mister Postman

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Non-notable episode of a television programme. No evidence of notability or other sources provided. From Wikipedia:Notability (fiction): "Wikipedia articles on works of fiction should contain real-world context and sourced analysis, offering detail on a work's achievements, impact or historical significance, not solely a summary of that work's plot.". I do not see how this particular episode has any special significance. Lankiveil 06:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

• comment Even if this isn't deleted, could we get rid of the "heart" in the title? It makes it virtually impossible to search for (who uses non-standard ASCII in search strings?) and a pain to link to. Wintermut3 06:45, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Just as an FYI, there's discussion going on over at Talk:List of Naruto episodes on plans to merging all the Naruto episode articles into a list (or number of lists) and making all the episode articles redirects to the list(s). That being said, I don't think it would be much of a problem to delete this article, although it would be preferrable to simply redirect to List of Naruto episodes so those of us doing the merging can use the information from the article history to (better) summarize the episode. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 07:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep in deference to the merge discussion going on; see NeoChaosX's comment above. This would be my only reason for keeping, though - so my mind can be changed in that direction as well. =^_^= --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 15:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Like several other Naruto episode articles, this article is devoted primarily to a scene-by-scene plot description which is inappropriate for an encyclopedia. As Wintermut3 indicates, the title is inappropriate as well due to the use of the heart symbol. --Metropolitan90 17:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
• Comment The heart symbol doesn't really affect searching (try it ♥)— Sandtiger 18:48, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delay AFD. As noted above, we're currently working on a merger, and we may need to salvage a bit of info from this page (and the rest of the Naruto episodes while we're at it). Afterwards, this page can disappear (or, more preferably, turn into a redirect). By the way, for future reference, when dealing with television episodes, WP:EPISODE is more accurate than WP:Notability (fiction). While this particular article may seem to grossly violate the latter, it is only really slightly below the line for an episode summary. You Can't See Me! 19:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete but merge - and as for the title, this is what it renders as in the address bar with the ♥ symbol:
  

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OH%21%3F_Please_%E2%99%A5_Mister_Postman. The character is not standard ASCII either, which may be problematic for some people. --SunStar Net ^talk 22:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, I'm sure that there are many, many other Naruto episode guides available on the Internet if you want to integrate information about this episode into an episode list. MichelleG 02:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
• Comment To topic starter: This is an exercise in futility. No one is disputing that this fails notability, which is why we are already working on merging the episodes. You understand that wikipedia attracts a lot of fancruft, and anime fans are the worst, so its difficult to control every new thing that gets posted. Do you plan to nominate every single episode for deletion? This just distracts people on AFD from more important issues.— Sandtiger 02:35, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment, I have nominated a grand total of two episode articles, so I hardly think I'm clogging AfD with crap and causing a backlog. If preserving this article is really so important for the purposes of this merger (and I don't think it is, as per MichelleG above), then it can be copied into someone's user space in preparation for that. If you have any further issues with my nominations, I invite you to to visit my talk page and take them up with me there. Lankiveil 11:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
    • Nice try, but I'm not dignifying this topic with another response. I already said it, it's a pointless, counterproductive nom.Try nominating an episode of startrek or the simpsons if you want an actual afd discussion. — Sandtiger 12:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and leave the people who are working in this area to continue working on the merger without an Afd hanging over their head. If it is absolutely necessary to deal with this now, redirect it to List of Naruto episodes. John Vandenberg 10:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per consensus to improve episodes. The article establishes plenty of notability to me and demonstrates an ample amount of real world information (I'd guess even more could be found though). Remember, kids, WP:NOT#PAPER. Now you play nice! Matthew 18:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment, what notability? As far as I can tell, there's only a plot summary and some trivia. The article gives no indication to me as to why episode #177 is particularly notable. Lankiveil 02:05, 25 April 2007 (UTC).
• Keep - a merge is taking place right now anyways. We need to keep all the edit histories. As far as notability, if you speak japanese, there's thousands of articles about this episode. - Peregrine Fisher 18:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep-per Peregrine and MatthewIllyria05 (Talk • Contributions) 18:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.