Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/O. B. Montessori Center

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. WjBscribe 22:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] O. B. Montessori Center

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Contested prod. Non-notable school. There are many thousands of Montessori schools in the world and no evidence that this one in particular is notable enough to require an encyclopedia article. The only assertion of notability is that it claims to have been the first Montessori school in the Philippines, but the article is unreferenced. This is just a lengthy POV advert for a school. andy 09:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. IPSOS (talk) 12:32, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. —TerriersFan 14:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - Article needs wikifying and a cleanup, but I do not think deletion is necessary. Statements on the school within the article such as alumni and history give the article some context of importance - the biggest thing missing is references. I have done a search and I could find several potential sources on the school - there are probably even more non-English ones around as well. An article on the school is potentially verifiable and could pass WP:V and WP:N. Camaron1 | Chris 15:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • I have removed all the copyright violations I can find in the article. It appears only the history section was a problem - that section will need to be re-written. Camaron1 | Chris 09:40, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - well spotted. But there are still the substantive issues of notability and the massive length and lack of neutrality of the article. andy 16:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • I am following earlier given advice and using WP:SOFIXIT. I am beginning to clean up the article and re-write some sections - as well as add references. Camaron1 | Chris 18:53, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Seems to be copyvio of [1] Kappa 23:10, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy Delete as copyvio. Copyvio apparentely fixed, still not notable or properly verified. VanTucky (talk) 01:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - Has 4 notable alumni and therefore should be kept.  Tiddly Tom  18:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete As nn school. Notable alumni are not grounds for justifying an article: cf. inherited notability. Eusebeus 18:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Inclusion of a college within this school makes it notable. -- DS1953 talk 19:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - What does make a school notable? I couldant find a page on it...  Tiddly Tom  19:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Comment - I found many references through a Google search, including glowing discussions in two recent UNESCO reports. One of those reports stated that the school's literacy program won the 1993 UNESCO International Literary Award in New Delhi, India. How many schools can make that claim? Even if other parts of the school were not notable, I think it is generally accepted that every college is notable, and this center includes not only a primary school and a high school, but also a college. That alone should be enough. -- DS1953 talk 19:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Comment - There is WP:Schools - but it is historical, there is currently no accepted guideline which explains school notability itself. Anyway, I think there is enough about this school which gives it notability - its scope of education (i.e. college, pre-school and school), unique teaching style, history including a quite notable founder, alumni, awards and recognition in the media. It is the article itself that is the problem - I have started the cleanup and left a request through proper channels at WP:SCH asking for short term attention be given to the article. Camaron1 | Chris 20:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - terrible article; notable school. Unique educational arrangements. TerriersFan 22:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete not notable, not close. MarkinBoston 03:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - Poor article but the school has a unique curriculum and is clearly notable. References exist to expand and verify the article. Dahliarose 19:03, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as per nom not notable.Harlowraman 02:30, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and improve - What Camaron1 said. It just needs reffing. Giggy\Talk 07:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.