Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Number One with a Bullet

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The result was Delete. The one source found is not significant coverage, and there is apparently not multiple non-trivial coverage. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 17:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Number One with a Bullet

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A compilation album without evidence of notability. PROD was contested with comment: "Article passes Wikipedia:MUSIC#Albums since the musicians are notable." I disagree. Albums released by a single artist/band often get reviewed in independent sources, but why would this be true for a compilation album that merely re-arranges previously released songs? B. Wolterding (talk) 17:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete - Given the nature of the album, I'm inclined to believe it's non-notable unless significant coverage in reliable sources is unearthed. The album's from 1988, so it would probably have to be print sources. All I can find online is the allmusic listing. Jfire (talk) 17:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Changing to weak keep given the NYT blurb. Jfire (talk) 20:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete I agree per WP:MUSIC#ALBUMS that notable artists' albums are notable, but I don't think that applies to compilations, as we also saw at this Afd: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disco Heaven 02.02 TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 18:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete I agree with the above; this album, despite containing songs by notable artists, doesn't appear to have been covered in any reliable sources. Alternatively, the page could be rewritten to cover the Ray Stevens album of the same name... Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - The performers are notable. The songs are notable. A compilation of high profile songs performed by their creators are interesting enough to merit an article. --Bensin (talk) 23:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Namely, what would be the content of that article? We're not supposed to be a database of track listings. --B. Wolterding (talk) 23:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
    • You never know until the article is finished. --Bensin (talk) 12:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Then, prepare it in your userspace until you know that the inclusion criteria are met. --B. Wolterding (talk) 12:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
        • I think the purpose of building an encyclopedia on a wiki is so that all users can collaborate on all articles, even the stubs. A collaboration not best achieved by hiding articles in private userspaces. --Bensin (talk) 21:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
          • Stubs are fine, if they are about notable topics. So: First find independent sources for your article, thus making sure the topic is notable. (You can store preliminary work in your user space.) Then create an article in mainspace, maybe a stub (but including the sources). After that, collaboration can start. --B. Wolterding (talk) 22:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
            • Reference added to article in The New York Times. --Bensin (talk) 23:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
              • I believe at least one of the concerns with the article has been addressed. Are there any more suggestions for improvements? --Bensin (talk) 20:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Insufficient notability per WP:MUSIC. NYT "ref" is completely unconvincing in showing otherwise. Eusebeus (talk) 18:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
• Let's see here:

1. Walk Like an Egyptian - #1 hit for The Bangles in 1986

2. Automatic (Pointer Sisters song) - Top 10 for the Pointer Sisters in 1984

3. Crazy for You (song) - #1 hit for Madonna (singer) in 1985

4. Nightshift - Top 5 hit for The Commodores in 1985

5. We Built This City - #1 hit for Starship in 1985

6. True Colors (song) - #1 hit for Cyndi Lauper in 1986

7. Next Time I Fall - #1 hit for Peter Cetera and Amy Grant in 1986

8. I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me) - #1 hit for Whitney Houston in 1987

9. Neutron Dance - Top 10 hit for the Pointer Sisters in 1984

10. So Emotional - #1 hit for Whitney Houston in 1987

Most of the songwriters who recorded these demos are noteworthy in themselves, including Boy Meets Girl, Michael Sembello, Billy Steinberg, and Marti Jones. Very strong keep, but article could use improvement to show why this album was an important one. B.Wind (talk) 03:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

• Keep. NYTimes commentary by chief critic is prima facie showing of notability. Minos P. Dautrieve (talk) 04:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. as insufficient notablity as per WP:MusicPharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep as notable compilation album that exists in the real world with notable music and that is verfiable. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 16:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.