Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nukeland Cinema

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Grandmasterka 00:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nukeland Cinema

This is a non-notable webcomic, found here. Googling "Nukeland cinema" shows 70 unique links, none of which from a reliable source (professional reviews, commentary etc.) The website returns an Alexa rank of 1 million. But the kicker really is the de-prodding comment, "ALOT of the webcomics listed on the wiki don't meet those criteria. That's a bit rediculous to expect of a WEBCOMIC." No, it's ridiculous to expect this webcomic to appear in an encyclopedia, as well as the other webcomic trash currently on the Wiki. - Hahnchen 00:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

As you note. Existence of other crap should be reason to delete it too, rather than including more of it. - Mgm|(talk) 09:42, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

"trivial coverage" does that not include mention/interviews on various radio stations? Such instances have occurred both on the "DJ Glowsticks" radio show, located in New Brunswick, canada, and in ermac's radio show several times throughout his "web" career. Also, my site has been around for near three years, and no, I don't know what this "Alexa" is all about. I never signed up for any such service. If you wish, I can provide my awstats traffic info, but even when I WASNT updating for months, I was getting over 300 uniques daily. At my best, I've gotten over two thousand. Also, I see MANY "lesser" (by lesser, I mean lesser in webfame, fanbase, archive size, and such, not lesser quality) webcomics that DO have articles here. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Cthon98/Misc/april.jpg <-- Check it out. I wasnt updating that month (Busy with work) AND I didn't have ANY ads running. Cthon98

  • Comment As far as I know, it's possible for webcomics to fit the WP:WEB criteria, (When I am King has non-trivial coverage, PvP won a major award, etc) so "it's impossible to meet the WP:WEB criteria" is not true. Please also note that notability is not a popularity contest, so citing things like fanbase, archive size, "webfame" do not matter. For example, Derek Kirk Kim's Alexa ranking always falls very low (partially because he has a very sporadic update schedule), but he's won three major comic industry awards (Eisner, Harvey, Ignatz), so he gets an article. ColourBurst 23:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete we can start with this webcomic. Musaabdulrashid 23:25, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Don't Delete Again, don't radio broadcasts count as this sort of coverage? - Cthon98
  • Comment It depends. I've seen interviews used as sources before, but different types of interview give different types of fact-checking. For example, the NPR interview in Derek Kirk Kim's article gives a synopsis of who he is, the works he's done, and the awards he's won. But the interview itself, including things he talks about, are primary sources (see WP:RS). And that's not the only article about him (not to mention he passes other criteria). It also depends on how it's mentioned - you didn't say which radio station interviewed you, and the times it was broadcast, so nobody could (even if they were inclined to) get a transcript or a recording of the interview, so it's still unverifiable right now. ColourBurst 00:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Alright. You're the only one who hasn't been a dick about this, Everyone else is "get rid of this trash, and then the others" sort of thing. If someone had been polite about stuff, I'd be alot less pissed than having my work called trash. - cthon98
My apologies if you were offended by some of the comments in this AFD. Many of long time editors(including myself) sometimes become jaded at seeing everyone placing anything and everything on the wikipedia. We prefer someone other the creator of the primary source to create an article on the wikipedia, especially if the editor is new (as it raises suspicion whether the article was created for sake of promotion rather than to help the wikipedia). --Mitaphane talk 04:12, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Main reason I submitted it was because I saw several other photocomics on there, some of which had only been around half as long as mine. That and the TKT article had mention of my comic, and a link to an article page for Nukeland, but the article page was lacking, so I thought I'd put something there. I really wasn't attempting to do it for self promotion (otherwise I would have included links to comics I felt to be my "best of") - Cthon98

I see you haven't been "properly" welcomed, so I placed a welcome message on your page. On the other hand, the Twisted Kaiju Theater has a lengthy article, but is rather short on sources. The most it can claim is a short blurb in a Toyfare issue. ColourBurst 15:55, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete for all the above. —ExplorerCDT 21:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - No reliable sources, doesn't meet WP:WEB. Wickethewok 18:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.