Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Novoselsky Valery

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete contra the meats -- Y not? 23:22, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Novoselsky Valery

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Vanity- the only contributor to the article is User:Valery_novoselsky, which violates WP:AB. Notability is also in question, per boilerplate text. Dewrad 19:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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  • Delete. I have copyedited it, but still tagged for notability after noticing that all (?) the 'reference' links do not point to sources about the subject but simply to the website's homepage. And even if they were... I doubt that would be enough notability. - Nabla 21:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Valery novoselsky 10:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Valery Novoselsky Valery novoselsky 10:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the correction! Updated links on Roma Diplomacy Programme and European Roma Information Office (ERIO) lead to the pages, which contain my name. You can check them now.

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  • Keep. That was me who asked Valery himself to write the article 'cause I have no much time. He is one of the most famous Gypsy activists, journalists and so on, he does really much for our society, he also sometimes represents it. He works with such projects as ERIO, Roma News Groups, and Roma education project too. That's not his fault that he does and makes much but almost nobody didn't guess to write about him. Most of us knows him so we didn't ever thought that's important to write about him somewhere. I was the first one who decided that he should be in the list of Roma persons. RomanyChaj
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Yes, she makes MUCH in ru.wikipedia because she has weak English, here she gives infromation for en.wiki-authors on Romani personalies. RomanyChaj
  • Keep. The information about my colleague Valery Novoselsky will be soon published in "Biography Romany Dictionary" in UK among the other 50 biographies of the most outstanding Romani people who have already contributed to Roma movement and the Romani culture most of all during the history. And the information posted in this article on Wikipedia is very little in comparison with the article about Mr. Novoselsky submitted for publication in mentioned book. For the reference, please, call to 0044-207-6096047. More about me on http://www.npage.org/article48.html Valdemar Kalinin
— Valdemar Kalinin (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
This user as many edits, yet almost all are within Romani subjects, Special:Contributions/ Desiphral - Nabla 14:07, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Hello! My name is Oleg Kozlovsky and I am the Head of the International Union of the Baltic States and the CIS. On behalf of our organization I recommend you to keep the profile of our friend and colleague Novoselsky Valery on Wikipedia. He indeed deserves a lot of gratitude for what he does for all Roma people and my message in his support is very little token for that. Nais tuke, Valera! - Thank you, our brother! Sincerely yours, Oleg Kozlovsky. E-mail: belarus_roma@yahoo.com Belarus_roma
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  • Keep. I am cooperating with Mr. Novoselsky on-line since 2001 in the sphere of Roma media and communications and can say only good words about his job, as well as about him as a person. We were participating together in a recently held seminar "Roma and media" conducted on 1-2 June during the Roma Festival Khamoro in Prague, Czech Republic. I would also like to confirm that the activity of his moderated Roma Virtual Network is a great support for our media organization - Roma Press Agency (RPA) in Slovakia. PhDr. Kristina Magdolenova, Executive director of RPA. http://www.rpa.sk Magdolenova
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  • Discussion: for what it's worth, an earlier version of this article was speedily deleted. But guys, come on. The bottom line is that you aren't allowed to write articles about yourself: see WP:AB. Full stop, no exceptions. As such, Valery, please stop editing articles about yourself (and I guess your work? Is that covered under AB?). Dewrad 15:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Creator of dozen of mail-lists w/o indication how many read his mails (there's a claim, inflated in Wikipedia twice, but its reliability could be questioned). Conflict of interest, NN, self-bio. Pavel Vozenilek 02:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Argument against the statement of Pavel Vozenilek. There is the indication on how many read the messages posted on the listserves there: just take a look on the column "Group Information" (middle of the left side of an Introductory page), then you will see "Members:", then their number. For example, start with Listserve on Roma rights issues and you will see!
  • Regarding the allegations in "self-bio". It was written by Hannah Slavik, the editor of a newly published book "Roma Diplomacy", where you can find my bio. Roma Diplomacy Book. However, the text of this publication is not on-line yet, so you have to review the hard copy of it. Valery novoselsky
    • In that case, the article is a copyright violation and should be deleted immediately. However, the fact that you have a biography in a published book does give credence to your claim of notability. —Psychonaut 10:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. My name is Yvonne Slee. I am the Coordinator of The Romani Life Society of Australia. http://www.geocities.com/romani_life_society/ Valery Is doing a magnificent job for Roma people and is a good friend and colleague of mine. His motivation to help Roma comes from the heart and his important network is one of only a handful where Roma can communicate with one another. Please leave his profile on Wikipedia. Keep up the great work, Valery. —sintezza 9.30pm 23 June 2007 AEST — sintezza (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

I've moved some comments to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2007 June 23/Articles so as to keep the discussion of the possible copyright violation in one place. I hope this is OK with everyone. The question of whether to delete the article, and of how to resolve the issue of possible copyright infringement in the meantime or in the event that the article is kept, are separate matters. —Psychonaut 14:06, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Since the main problem is that I posted the info on my work and my person, the best solution in this case would be for someone else among my friends who are active on Wikipedia to post the same info, wikify it, reference better, then this info in a form of new articles will certainly survive. Otherwise, both of all will loose the time in meaningless on-line discussions. Valery novoselsky
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.