Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norvan vogt

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The result was delete. Singularity 00:56, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Norvan vogt

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I recently speedy deleted a copy of this article as a non-notable biography but it has been recreated. So AfD is probably a good way to settle the question once and for all. This is a resume masquerading as an article. In fact it is quite similar to his online resume posted at [1]. The article does make an effort in terms of references but these are all coming from one human interest blurb in the Canberra Times and unreliable sources such as the subject's travel blog and various Internet forums. All in all, "Norvan vogt" registers under 70 unique Ghits [2] and looking through them, nothing but the article mentioned above has any hope of being used as a strong source. Pascal.Tesson 05:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC) Pascal.Tesson 05:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - I added the speedy to the first and second. And I understand the change from speedy to AfD. Sadly, Norvan does not seem notable. If it is kept, it should be moved back to Norvan Vogt to re-capitalize his last name. --omtay38 05:20, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - It is a resume masquerading as an article. The topic Norvan does not meet notability. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:43, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• delete as not meeting the standard conditions for notability, though it was not a speedy. So this is the way to settle it, and then G4 will deal with it in the future.DGG (talk) 06:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - it is a CV which even if rewritten in encyclopedic style would fail notability. This is not a judgement on Norvan's community work which is worthy, just not notable. • nancy • 06:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - Per above. - Caribbean~H.Q. 06:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - CV- style - Well I think that the rewrite that Zulu4 did cuts away at the CV style argument as it now has a better narrative. re: Notable – if you have a look at the other people that are in the same organisations like the national youth roundtable they also have wiki pages such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iktimal_Hage-Ali so if they are notable then I would say this article is too. Also I think that because he has been selected as a lead Senate candidate that this is notable within its self. Delvian 21:26, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Say, I hate to play cop here but I find it somewhat odd that Zulu4 (talk · contribs), Ando80 (talk · contribs) and yourself have all registered their accounts in the last 4 days and have all of their edits concentrated on this sole article. I have to assume that at the very least you are friends of Mr. Vogt in real-life and it would be nice of you to disclose any potential conflict of interest in this matter. Pascal.Tesson 22:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

• -Sorry didn't know about the COI thing I'm new to this whole wiki thing. I'm not really a friend of Norvan's as i don't really mix with him socially i am 1200kms away. but i do know him and use to work with him. he was my team leader work and over a 12 month period really helped me sort my life out, got me my dream job so yes i guess you could sau that there was a COI. I don't think that it takes away from the issue though. Kate Lundy, Gareth Humphreys and Kerrie tucker have wiki pages so i can't see why Norvan can have one. i guess that Ando80 is Frank Anderson a guy that knows norvan from mexico he stated as such in the RIG discussion ^[1]apart from COI issues - does it mater that we know and like Norvan? it does not take away from the validity of the issue? besides i think that the interest in getting norvan up there was only sparked because of his 'call to arms' to save the Dems. ^[2] which is only the past week. Delvian 11:37, 15 August 2007

• Comment - I was asked to look at this page to see what my opinion was, I don't have a stack of time at the moment, the most noteable thing I can see about this person is the fact he's an Australian Democrats candidate in the ACT at the coming election. Unfortunately candidates are not considered noteworthy enough until they become elected. If this is his biggest noteability to the wider community (and minor awards/achievements dont count unfortunately) then i'm afraid I lean toward delete. Timeshift 06:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

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