Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Ballarat Rebels

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Michaelas10Respect my authoritah 20:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] North Ballarat Rebels

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Contested prod. Sportsteam competing in the under 18's age group of the TAC Cup Garrie 03:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Garrie 03:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Should probably include other teams in the same league. But I will wait on results for this AfD before going to that step.Garrie 03:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - Several notable players have played for the club. Should evidence of notability from third party sources be provided I would be happy to keep.-- Mattinbgn/ talk 07:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge and Redirect to TAC Cup (and the same goes for the other teams in the league). FiggyBee 09:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep this is a team in the league that many Victorian AFL footballer come from. Do we have a sports team/league/season guideline for AFD? --Scott Davis Talk 14:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, fails WP:BIO. We do, actually; a team in a fully professional league, or at the highest level of amateur competition in a sport in a given country, is notable. Does this team qualify? I won't register a Keep on a subject about which I know little, but if others assert the notability of the league, I won't register Delete either. RGTraynor 17:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment this team would be - at a stretch - on par with US college level football (however, college footballers recieve scholarships and other benefits). The TAC Cup (in which this team competes) is a feeder competition for the national Australian Football League (professional), and for the state's Victorian Football League (semi-professional). No indication is provided that the TAC Cup is a fully professional league. Garrie 21:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. The TAC Cup is a notable league with its grand final played as a curtain raiser to the AFL Grand Final at the Melbourne Cricket Ground see [1]. This grand final is also broadcast live across Australia. Further, there is a significant potential for its players to be drafted by the AFL. Adam Goodes, a former player with the Rebels has twice won a Brownlow Medal for best and fairest player in the AFL. They are certainly equivalent to one of the top 10 leagues in English soccer. Capitalistroadster 01:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment no-one's saying the TAC Cup isn't notable. The question is whether that notability extends to the individual teams and players to the extent they should have their own articles. FiggyBee 12:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Several of us appear to think it extends to the teams. --Scott Davis Talk 12:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
        • Several = 2.(Scott Davis + Capitalistroadster) Garrie 23:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, team in an amateur sports league. The fact that they've produced some famous players is not really relevant, for the same reason that we don't have a page on the club that Wally Lewis played for in the Under 3s division. Lankiveil 09:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC).
    • He played for the Wynnum-Manly Seagulls - is that any more significant than the Ballarat Rebels? --Scott Davis Talk 12:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Yes, it is; the Seagulls were in a league that was for many decades the major sporting competition in Queensland, so they're much more comparable to, say, a VFL team than an under-18s amateur club. FiggyBee 14:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
        • And when he did play for the Seagulls, he was being paid to. Do we have any articles for teams he was not paid to be in? Garrie 23:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Notable, and reasonably well known, club. Rebecca 08:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.