Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norrie maclaren

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete, given two go-rounds and couldn't produce a single vote one way or another, default action is keep. Babajobu 09:53, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Norrie maclaren

A strange mixture of fact and unverifiable statement. Imdb knows about a Norrie Maclaren, but he seems to not be this person. No mention of him on the credits to The Shining per the end credits on the DVD (the assistant director was Brian Cook). There are Google hits on various farming-related activities such as hen-keeping, so that might be this person. The only verifiable bit seems to be filmbang productions, here, but that looks fairly nn. No Vote, I'm bringing this to AfD in the hope that someone with more film knowledge than I can confirm whether this is a hoax ripe for deletion, spam for a production company or what. Tonywalton  | Talk 12:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Keep, Some verifiable facts: The Peerage lists a Norman Angus MacLaren, who is the grandson of a Countess from Britain. [1]. MacLaren's grandmother, Edith Maud Rawdon-Hastings, Countess of Loudoun, is from the controversial line of Plantagenet, who have a claim to the throne of Britain. [2]. filmbang, which is Scotland's film production guide, here, lists a Scottish based producer named Norrie MacLaren. There is a reference in a book on British fashion photography titled 'Look at Me Fashion and Photography in Britain' [3] and a continental European photography web showcase has a sample piece for Deluxe magazine from 1977 [4]. IMDB lists a UK production credit under Norrie Maclaren

There is a Scotland based organisation that does film related work for the local economic agency, that has MacLaren as a chairman, [5]. There are various farm and animal related activities referring to a Norrie Maclaren living in Scotland, consistent with the interest in gardening prominently mentioned in the article. Finally, the article mentioned that he was an assistant to Stanley Kubrick, which is not the same as claiming that he was the assistant director to Stanley Kubrick. There is enough to prove that the article is neither spam nor hoax.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.20.37.41 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. This guy clearly exists. http://www.mountainfilmfestival.co.uk/norrie.htm Crypticfirefly 05:56, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Comment my question is not whether he exists, which he clearly does, but whether notability is established. Thanks for the additional information, 82.20.37.41 Tonywalton  | Talk 09:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Comment: "Assistant to Stanley Kubrick" is NOT the same as "Assistant Director": the former job is more of a gofer than a technician's job. If you have The Shining on DVD, check the credits again under the former title, not the latter. Kubrick's assistant while he was making Full Metal Jacket got a credit (and if you're wondering why I would remember such a thing, it's because he {Leon Vitali) gets mentioned in Matthew Modine's Full Metal Jacket Diary -- which I just read -- and I spotted his name in the credits).

Hmm, IMDB lists Vitali as Kubrick's assistant on The Shining, too, so the probability of this being a hoax/inflated resume increases. --Calton | Talk 07:38, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Comment: As the creator of this article, I have asked IMDB to update their database. Maclaren was Kubrick's personal photographer on the sets. Until the changes are reflected on IMDB, i've taken out the reference to shining and barry lyndon. The rest of his biography should be enough to establish notability

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