Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Non-Prophets

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 09:35, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Non-Prophets

NN band vanity, no claim to notabilty, no Google hits except thier web site (of which the entire content is "Please visit this site later. It is currently under construction." In other words just like 10,000 other band vanity articles and could we PUH-LEEZE have a speedy delete tag for band vanity? Herostratus 03:57, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Although the substub of an article doesn't mention it, Non-Prophets are a hip-hop duo consisting of Joe Beats and Sage Francis. Here's their AllMusic entry and here's a review in Pitchfork Media. --keepsleeping say what 05:53, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
• Weak Keep as per keepsleeping say what. JHMM13 07:35, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
• Speedy delete as empty: Come on, folks! It isn't the topic we're considering: it's the article. This "article" says, "Non-Prophets are a hip-hop group." That's it! (A predicate nominative is a sentence consisting of a subject, a verb, and then another noun: "Mike is cool." "St. Bob's school is in Seattle." "IHOP is a restaurant.") This is a fact, not an article, and it's not a substub: it's empty. Geogre 15:09, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

you could always try to improve it. Peyna 15:19, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Yep, except that I have no interest in it. I do wish that Keepsleeping had done it, since he or she had done the research. I am against having articles on all the pop acts in the world. I recognize that consensus is for them, so I vote accordingly, but I, of all people, am the wrong one to be bulking up things like this. In general, if I know something about a topic that's up for deletion, I will add to the article and try to improve it. (See, for example, the before and after of Film adaptation.) Geogre 15:55, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I guess I'm just not sure about deleting articles that have potential. On the one hand, they provide little value in their current state, but so long as they are not nonsense or inaccurate, they are not harming anyone that stumbles upon them. This article has not existed for the month, nothing links to it yet, it was originally speedy-deleted then recreated as a stub and kept. I think in this case I'd like to give a benefit of the doubt Weak Keep. Peyna 16:02, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

• Keep as it seems to meet WP:MUSIC standards. Turnstep 20:38, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Legitimate artist. It seems from of the previous discussion that there is a little confusion as to the importance of the artist and body of work. Sage Francis is an underground hip-hop artist with a large fanbase who has been signed to Epitaph Records and has begun to move into more mainstream channels. He is not "pop". Although, I'd like to point out that "pop" implies that the artist is popular and hence important enough to warrant an article. -->Chemical Halo 21:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

• • I hope you've added that material to the article so I can change my vote, as I voted to delete based on its substub status. I meant "pop" as in not "serious music." In that sense, Sonic Youth and Throbbing Gristle are pop acts. I didn't mean "boy band" or Pdiddly. (And if we're going to have decent underground and independent hiphop, someone needs to fix Spearhead (band).) Geogre 03:07, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep This is a legitimate entry. Google has about 99,600 results. Not 1 as was previously reported. The article's size isn't a cause for it to be deleted.

• Keep Passes WP:MUSIC. Nomination is false, in that there are many google hits [1]. Hipocrite - «Talk» 14:46, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep and stub it. And can someone add a bit more to it while voting? Zordrac 01:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep as per Hipocrite and Keepsleeping. Peachlette 11:45, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.