Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nokia 1200

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The result was Redirect to List_of_Nokia_products#Nokia_1xxx_series_.E2.80.93_Ultrabasic_series. As User:Mikeblas says, Wikipedia is not a Nokia catalogue. No Keep votes give any rationale for doing so.Black Kite 16:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nokia 1200

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Non-notable commercial product. Completely unreferenced and reads like an advertisement. Too few substantial independent third-party references exist to support a wikipedia article that is itself not a review or a advert. Wikipedia is not a Nokia catalog. Wikipedia is not a cell-phone directory. Mikeblas (talk) 21:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep, it does read a bit like an advertisement yes but all that needs is a bit of editing. Wikipedia is a mobile phone directory.--Him and a dog 21:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment. Nope; Wikipedia is not a mobile phone directory. Please see WP:NOT#DIRECTORY. -- Mikeblas (talk) 23:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment: Which number are you referring to there?--Him and a dog 11:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - The only slight - very slight - claim to notability I could find is that "The Nokia 1200, 1208 and 1650 will be the first models to feature text alerts that will automatically remind users to turn off their chargers when the phone's battery has been fully replenished." - [[1]] - I have no idea of the history of phone notability, however looking at WP:NOT#DIR and even trying to rein in my deletionist tendencies I can't see this phone being notable. Springnuts (talk) 22:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 07:17, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

• redirect to List of Nokia products Travellingcari (talk) 07:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep I have added a citation to demonstrate notability and the possibility that this stub can be improved. Colonel Warden (talk) 08:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Notable mobile phone. Snowman (talk) 17:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep See {{Nokia phones}}. We have quite a few articles like this one. -Reuvenk_{T C} 22:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete The only ref which is not the manufacturer's site is the news article which says it reminds the user to turn off the charger. This one independent ref does not satisfy notability. The WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument is not very persuasive. In time, perhaps other nonnotable cellphone article will have their turn at AFD. Edison (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 02:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Update I have added more references, so your comments are no longer relevant. Snowman (talk) 13:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

• I wouldn't say no longer relevant, especially since two sources are hardly independent as they come from a "Nokia Museum". My original redirect vote still stands. Travellingcari (talk) 16:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

• By common sense a mobile phone manufactured by Nokia is notable. Snowman (talk) 18:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.