Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicholas Stix

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

[edit] Nicholas Stix

The result was Delete. Consensus is that he fails WP:BIO. Jayjg (talk) 02:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Nicholas Stix (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Subject is a barely-noted blogger and freelance journalist. He has not been the subject of any profiles, and has not won any awards, though he has been mentioned in passing in a few articles on other topics. Previously, an editor, possibly Stix himself, made a nuisance of himself by doing nothing but adding links and mentions of Stix to numerous articles.User:70.23.199.239/User:70.23.167.160 This article was created by a brand-new account, and I suspect it's more self-promotion. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 06:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Weak delete - the American Daily claims he did win some award, but I couldn't find out what award. Other sources aren't really about him, but passing mentions at best. Unless more information comes up, he fails WP:BIO. Huon (talk) 10:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong KEEP. The article lists six different third-party publications discussing the subject – three books and three articles in three different fields (one author apparently considers the subject an important poet). Nominator asserts, “Subject is a barely-noted blogger …,” but it says here (National Policy Institute) that he was the “project director” of a major report on race in America, and here (Alex Linder) that he is a Jew who interviewed a major neo-Nazi. I just did a Google Books search, and he is mentioned in many other books besides those cited in the WP article. This list cites over 20 publications both influential and obscure, none of which is a blog, in which his articles have appeared. To any impartial observer, he is clearly an influential American journalist, though just as clearly one whose work is controversial and elicits strong emotions. However, being controversial is not a criterion for deletion, and the nominator’s obvious intense hostility towards the subject makes his AfD a violation of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. 24.90.201.232 (talk) 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong KEEP There is no evidence that Stix created or edited the article. He is clearly notable and has been mentioned on and off the blogosphere. Unfortunately, he is a true conservative and isn't too scared to speak his mind and the truth about whtie people, which scares the supposedly neutral but liberally biased editors of wikipedia, at least some of them. Of course, if he were a neo-Nazi, he would instantly get a page, as he would discredit true conservatism and any serious discussions about race that don't just bash whites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Comradesandalio (talk • contribs) 21:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - regarding the sources: We have:
    1. The American Daily has a short and uninformative biography, the website given for him is wrong.
    2. Kill the Messenger: The War on Standardized Testing has a one-line mention among lots of other journalists.
    3. I couldn't access Writing Alone and With Others and Rhetoric and Composition as Intellectual Work, but judging from what I could see, the former has a one-line mention, while the latter reviews an article by Stix.
    4. Access to the PDF "Color of crime" was denied.
    5. Into the Mainstream again has a one-line passing mention.
    6. The next two concern a report Stix edited; one is the report itself, the other is a book review.
    7. Finally, another one-sentence mention.
At most three - the biography and the reviews - can be said to be "discussing the subject", and there's hardly any information. When was he born? Where was he educated? Has somebody analyzed his political views? Is he, as some sources suggest, a "white nationalist", or, as another source claims, a "self-anointed protector of black students"? From the sources we have, I can't tell. Google Books gave me just a dozen results, including three of our "sources". In effect, Stix has written quite a lot, but nobody writes about Stix. Huon (talk) 21:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment You can access the PDF by hitting enter in the address bar of the "access denied" page. It requires a referrer from amren.com. But there's no point since he isn't mentioned in the document at all; the SPLJ source just says he quoted it once, which isn't significant enough for mention in an article, let alone anything supporting notability. --Dhartung | Talk 23:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, fails WP:BIO. Being a prolific online writer means nothing by itself. --Dhartung | Talk 23:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Apparently does a lot of writing, but he hasn't recieved any significant coverage in independant reliable sources required by WP:BIO. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 22:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.