Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicholas Langman

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. Mo0[talk] 04:14, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nicholas Langman

Wikipedia is not a news report. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 12:34, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Please do not delete this entry - it is important that this name be made public because the British authorities are trying to conceal it.

  • Weak Keep if more information can be added, otherwise delete. - FrancisTyers 13:09, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Since then, more info has been added to this entry. --Vodex 19:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, I can find the mention that the newspaper in question published a name, but not any information that this actually is his name. If someone can verify it, change to keep. - Bobet 13:16, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Since then, this person's identity has been verified. --Vodex 19:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I still don't see it. There should probably be an article on the kidnappings, but not on one person stated to have been there at the time. Do we have other articles for bystandeers? - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 20:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete By all means have an article on the purported kidnappings. But by the nature of the supposed D-Notice it seems impossible to link these to Nicholas Langman Dlyons493 Talk 14:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Since then... see above. --Vodex 19:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:V unverifyable. --Pboyd04 16:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Since then... see above. --Vodex 19:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Here is the Greek newspaper article published on 25 December 2005 Stavros-Athens

http://cryptome.org/br-gr-spies.htm

    • That's a picture of something that mentions MI6 certainly. The red box is hard to read - looks something like Atpna K Lakman. Seems inconclusive to me. Dlyons493 Talk 21:16, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Other Greek press report the same name these days, see for example from Ta Nea http://ta-nea.dolnet.gr/print_article.php?e=A&f=18426&m=N09&aa=1 as to the person's name, and some image of a memo from the same article, http://ta-nea.dolnet.gr/print_article.php?e=A&f=18426&m=N09&aa=1, shows the original English spelling of the name. I agree additional information beyond the name should be included to keep this article. ArielGlenn 23:40 29 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Langman has been named in a national British newspaper (The Morning Star), one of the rare occasions where a British media organisation defies the D-Notice system and admits to having done so. He is also reportedly the subject of a criminal complaint in Greece and the complainant intends to seek his extradition. Rugxulo 15:02, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as an article, but add in additional information about him and NPOV the allegations. --Vodex 00:55, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Serious allegations against him related to an important event, the July 7 London bombings, very little other information about him available Chaikney 19:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep British newspapers have now named him, in defiance of the D-Notice Stavros-athens 18:18, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
This AfD is being relisted to generate a clearer consensus. Please add new discussion below this notice. Thanks! --Ichiro 19:16, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep now that he has appeared in the press. The issue of information obtained by torture/maltreatment in the GWOT is highly notable. --Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 20:23, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Too much evidence to remove. Story is not false. Verified in English Media. As shown in links on page.
  • Comment The incident is clearly notable but personally I've yet seen nothing that links this persons name to it. None of the article links appear to and I don't see it in ArielGlenn link either. Could someone spell it out for me please? Dlyons493 Talk 21:07, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep but it should also be wikified in a better way, shouldn't it?!? --Angelo 00:59, 8 January 2006 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.