Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Niccolò Casini (2nd nomination)

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The result was Delete. @pple complain 17:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Niccolò Casini

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Former Livorno keeper who survived a previous nomination, since then he failed to make a single appearance for the club ([1]), being released by his club.([2], in Italian) Angelo 15:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Angelo 15:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Has not played in a fully-professional league (WP:BIO). Number 57 16:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:BIO. Eusebeus 20:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per above. -Flubeca^Talk 20:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:BIO --Malcolmxl5 22:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Just because time has passed does not mean he is no longer notable. Remember that the basic notability guideline is based on the existence of verifiable, reliable sources - those sources have not disappeared over the past few months. Gerry Taggart is playing at a non-professional club now, does that wipe out his previous notability? No. Casini was in Livorno's squad last season, which gives him a certain amount of notability, and the case for notability could only be strengthened (i.e. by making an appearance for the first-team), but not weakened. ugen64 02:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

• So, following your reasoning, are we also gonna keep all players (including amateur ones) originally from a professional club's youth system?!? That's news to me. Taggart's case is completely different, he played lots of pro matches. This guy failed to make a single appearance, despite the fact Livorno played in the Serie A, the UEFA Cup and the Coppa Italia last season. He was just a young reserve player who was awarded a number, a common usage in Italian club, as this can happen even for 40 or more players, especially with clubs playing European competitions. And WP:BIO says Competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming or tennis, does not say Competitors who were awarded a club number in a professional team. --Angelo 08:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
  • "So, following your reasoning, are we also gonna keep all players (including amateur ones) originally from a professional club's youth system?!?" No. You might notice I voted "delete" for Rui Fonte for instance (even though he is currently in Arsenal's youth system). ugen64 01:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
• It's not the same though. He doesn't just come from a pro team's youth system, he was a sub at Livorno, fully pro, Serie A team. -- BanRay 23:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• He was signed from a regional amateur team, filled a third-choice goalkeeping position in the whole season and he was then released for free, and now there's no source at all around about what's he doing right now. The guy clearly fails WP:BIO (no pro appearances) and WP:N (no significant coverage). --Angelo 00:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 00:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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