Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newstalk

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Majorly (hot!) 16:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newstalk

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claim to notability is 'only all talk radio station in the Republic of Ireland' killing sparrows 06:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

== There is nothing notable or newsworthy! and is unreferenced with old news about a presenters dificulty from 2006. Recitation of programming schedule is silly padding of a dull article and seems to fail to meet the notability guideline WP:CORP Approve deletion 10:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep Notable national radio station, the Irish equivalent of something like talkSPORT. The article could so with a bit of citing and tidying up, though. EliminatorJR Talk 10:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I agree it needs more citations and references to prove notability. If these are added then I would !vote "keep" but at the moment it fails WP:V. --Vintagekits 12:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep per EliminatorJR's reasoning. --Wikipedian, Historian, and Friend? 16:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
    Wikipedian, Historian, and Friend? (talk · contribs) just opined "strong keep" in 27 AFD discussions over a period of 35 minutes, several times with clearly disruptive rationales. Uncle G 16:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, ironically for the statement contained in the nomination - 'only all talk radio station in the Republic of Ireland' is good enough for me. - fchd 17:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per EliminatorJR. Acalamari 18:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep - Radio stations with a significant broadcast area are notable. --Darksun 18:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per all above. Davewild 20:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: It is not exclusively talk. On weekend evenings it is padded out with music. It is irritating in the number of advt. breaks which are self promoting of itself, truely navel gazing. talkSPORT equivalents appear on all radio stations, as is recognised as a cheap method of having the public fill up airtime. Sports talk presence from 19-22 daily is an shrewd economic way to run a radio station especially if listeners pay 30 cent for texts to pad the program and email comment is not encouraged.

Thus there is nothing original or inovative in the station. It is just one of many forgetable, non notable radio stations, which is not reaching its' advertising quota. Other contributors to this debate are merely saying "aye" without rational reasoning. Their recommendations are as fans who say nothing rather than neutral rational editors. We could fill wikipedia with worldwide similar niche commercial advertising stations so Deletion per notability guideline WP:CORP as non notable is merited. 23:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Extreme keep. Long standing radio station (in its Dublin local format), now a national radio station in a non-insignificant country - this is its "claim to notability". Doesn't meet any criteria of deletion, under any imaginable circumstances. Large listenership. Need I go on? I also note that the delete vote above accusing sheep-like tactics, and which appears to be an attack on the stations content and no justification of why to delete... hasn't actually got a person attached to it. --Kiand 19:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete* Kiand claims that a five year old radio station is a "Long standing radio station"!! Where are the listnership figures quoted. Tune on FM band circa 100 MHz upwards and you will find many stations of non notable worth and uninteresting to the majority of listneners and also correspondingly also to the advertiser. Newstalk is heavily self promoting, implying a lack of paying advertisers, so just another attempt by business interests to garner revenue from a "new" source.

As there are a multitude of radio stations seeking advertising, it is not unique and non-encyclopediac and merits deletion. Zubenzenubi 00:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

You'll also find that all of those stations "circa 100MHz upwards" that are licenced in Ireland have articles on here, including those with significantly less than 10% reach (Dublin's Country Mix 106.8 for example, as well as those with less than 10% that are well below 100MHz - Lyric FM. I'd also like to suggest that the unsigned, anonymous IP vote above that has exactly the same sentiments is, in fact, you - duplicate voting is extremely frowned on here.
Listernship figures are available from the BCI, and are both quouted and referenced in the article.
Self promotion, perceived lack of advertisers, and an apparent lack of uniqueness do not, under any circumstances, classify as reasons for deletion. I'd suggest you read up on Wikipedia policies before waging what seems to be some surreal, one-man-war. --217.67.139.104 08:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Zubenzenubi HAS voted twice, IP votes or not - [2] and [3]. --Kiand 15:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep article could do with a bit of work but its worth keeping. --Albert.white 12:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Strongest possible Keep as per Kiand, fchd and EliminatorJR - I thought I had seen everything until I read this nom. Frelke 12:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. Rather strange nomination, rather stranger pro-deletion comments. Meets no criteria for deletion. And I dont like this radio station doesn't count as one :-) BastunBaStun not BaTsun 14:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.