Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neopia (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 06:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Neopia

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Plot summary/game guide for Neopets, written in somewhat in-universe style; seems to contain absolutely no notability out of universe. There are a couple of book sources, but they don't seem to be in depth coverage; the rest is just primary sources. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 00:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Non notable. No out of universe context what-so-ever.Undeath (talk) 00:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Neopets is highly notable and this is a reasonable split of it for length. Article is mostly not in-universe; not lede and discussion of what happened in Year 6 of the site, etc. JJL (talk) 01:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Tell me how it is "not in universe". I see nothing out of universe in this article at all. It only deals with in-universe facts about neopets/neopia.Undeath (talk) 01:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment read the lede. In most sections it begins with an out-of-universe intro. (Neovia: "A new section that was added to the Haunted Woods during the...". Krawk Island: "Krawk Island is a pirate-themed "island". Here, players can visit...". These are clearly out-of-universe descriptions, referring to when things were added to the game and to the players of the game. That's how most sections are, followed by a more detailed description of what is available to players. This is a reasonable split of the lengthy Neopets article. JJL (talk) 15:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Three AfDs already and mostly in-universe. Timmeh! 02:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete I'm getting hits in Google Books and Google Scholar but the useful refs found here are already used in the main article so there is no point in merging. Redirect is optional.--Lenticel ^(talk) 04:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. recommend Transwiki to Neopets wikia as well since the wikia version isn't good and the article will be deleted anyway. note that transwiki is compatible with delete.--Lenticel ^(talk) 06:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep Unless firmly established on a Neopian Wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelle192837 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Neopets is certainly notable, but this is just a huge dump if trivia and game-guide info (sample sentence: "In Happy Valley, there is an Ice Cream Cart where users can use coupons to buy ice creams") masquerading as an article. The main article, Neopets has a nice 5-paragraph section on the Neopia world, and I don't see anything here that should even be merged. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 10:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. Describes the most important element of an extremely popular (highly notable) game. Yes, it's too in-universe, but WP:AfDISNOTCLEANUP. It has also received significant external coverage in reliable sources. Mostlyharmless (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. Someoneanother 10:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.