Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Negative edge

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. W.marsh 03:33, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Negative edge

An aspect of the Street Fighter II engine that is only of real interest to hardcore fans. I prod'ded it and it was removed, so I left it alone, but mention of negative edge was removed from the SF2 article by another editor. Therefore, I feel the article is no longer necessary. Danny Lilithborne 00:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Keep This is on the edge of a "How to guide". See WP:NOT 1.7.8. However I am not 100% sure that its not useful in wiki. It seems that this not only tells you how to perform a manouvere (which would warrant a delete) but also gives information on something that may interest sections of the community. The article is reasonably well written, something that should not be used as the only grounds for a keep, but which adds to the reason why I voted keep. Viridae 01:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Reads like a how-to guide, which Wikipedia is not. --Coredesat 02:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Or maybe like an instruction manual for the videogame; the game itself is notable, but not such minutiae of playing it. LotLE×talk 06:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This is borderline how-to-guide, but I think it's fine. I also think that Street fighter is a common game and notable enough to have subpages. Tobyk777 07:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep explains a system of a well known game.--Andeh 08:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Howto guide / game guide on extremely ephemeral subject. Technique not notable, As LotLE. -- GWO
• Delete - Borderline how-to. Original research maybe? Wickethewok 13:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, no WP:V sourcing in the article. If it gets sourced I will reconsider on merits of article.--Isotope23 14:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - It definitely needs sourcing and a rewrite, but I think it's notable (remember the Pokemon rule). It seems to be a real technique implemented by Capcom. — ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk 17:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - This technique is notable enough (if it gets verified). Sources must be added to this article. If no source is added (after the original author is notified) after a reasonable time have elapsed, then it maybe qualify for deletion. Though I don't think now is the time to delete this.--WinHunter ^(talk) 18:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or merge to Street Fighter II. Such a specific technical aspect to a game just doesn't seem encyclopedic to me. TomTheHand 20:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep seems like a legit article documenting a gaming phenomenon. Aguerriero (talk) 21:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per above. --badlydrawnjeff talk 23:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete There are no sources and the writer has very little more than a clue as to the meaning of Etymology. The article doesn't make very much sense, this article must be rewritten and must cite sources and prove notability to remain on Wikipedia.--Cocopuffberman 23:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment tagged as unsourced as I could find nothing to back this article up outside of a few forum posts, which are not reliable sources. If kept (and it looks no consensus right now strictly on numbers) I will revisit 30 days after close if AfD and relist if no verification from reliable sources is added.--Isotope23 12:40, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Needs verification. especially as the definition is poorly written (and the diagram is strange) Bwithh 18:29, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Has been verified by countless people...want proof? Just type "Negative edge"+capcom into google and look through some of the results, or gamefaqs, or anywhere else. Also, it applies to capcom games SINCE SF2, not just SF2, making it far more significant. 12.107.142.191 04:45, 25 June 2006

• Comment it has to be verified by a reliable source. Googlinng "Negative edge"+capcom produces this: [1]. The results are message board postings, personal websites at geocities, etc. Nothing here would constitute a reliable source for purposes of verification.

• BTW, Originator keeps blanking the article... I reverted, but perhaps he/she wants it removed?--Isotope23 12:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

• CommentI know him. I think overall he's more irked that it's difficult to find proper citations for this after going through the hard work of actually fleshing out the article. Anyway, I came across two mentions in one of BradyGames' strategy guide about Negative Edge, and added the appropriate citations as well as direct quotes from the guides. I hope those suffice for the purposes here, as it is a reliable source at the least? 12.107.142.191 09:28, 26 June 2006

• Keep Explains a technical aspect of arcade gaming and related programming. - CNichols 02:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Unless serious rewrite occurs, with included wikification and references. That isn't likely to happen, however. Black-Velvet 09:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.