Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nas vs. Jay-Z

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep (continue cleanup though, obviously) W.marsh 14:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nas vs. Jay-Z

Nas vs. Jay-Z (discussion|history|protect|delete|undelete|logs|links)

Completely uncited and mostly unverifiable. The article consists largely of song lyrics which probably violates a bunch of copyright standards. Reads a lot like original research. I don't think this is even that encyclopedic even if it was cleaned up. Metros232 22:07, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep with Cleanup the Deletion policy page state that articles which need improvement and has unverified information, may not be appropriate for AfD. I tagged the article less than a week ago. Please allow the editors of the article an opportunity to fix the article before deleting. Subject is notable, as it pertains to two of the more famous recording artists of the past ten years and may have a place in Wikipedia, once cleaned up. Ramsquire ^{(throw me a line)} 22:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Definitely encyclopedic and notable. Needs cleanup, but there are plenty of documented sources for the feud and its epilogue. hateless 00:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - Looks like original research unless reliable sources are found and mentioned on the page. --Nehwyn 19:06, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep with Cleanup - this is absolutely a notable event in hip hop culture; however, it clearly needs to be substantially rewritten, sourced, and the copyright violations taken care of. Chubbles1212 01:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep with Cleanup - Reason item is majorly unsourced is because the item was growing large. It was originally part of the Hip hop rivalries and I moved it, with additional informations added. I don't know how people can argue it should be erased soley for original research without knowing what the content is actually about.

If this article is deleted, at least the whole thing should be moved back and merged with original article. But it's too lumpy there. It is uncited as-is, but it's a rap lyric. How do you cite a source of rap lyrics and it's metaphor?dooly00000 02:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete until reliable sources are found, this is nothing but original research. T Rex | talk 02:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: Please note that "unverifiability" and articles needing work are not suited for AfD per the AfD page. If the issue is the amount of cleanup the article needs please allow the editors time to perform the cleanup. If after an attempt, the article isn't salvageable, then bring it here. Ramsquire ^{(throw me a line)} 23:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and Clean the article needs work, but the "beef" itself is notable (i.e. it was reported about in publications, I believe.) My first instinct was delete, because I thought it was going to be a comparison of the relative qualities of the two rappers - but it's not. It's an article about what appears to be a well-publicised dispute, and therefore notable. --TheOtherBob 17:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.