Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NE1fm

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep--Anthony.bradbury"talk" 21:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NE1fm

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No assertion of notability, station only launched a few days ago. Speedy deletion contested. Adam Cuerden talk 15:08, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - as per nom. Rgds, --Trident13 20:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep, for a number of reasons. Firstly, just launching is not a reason to delete something. Secondly, this is a station broadcasting on FM, across a major city, on the same level as Metro Radio and BBC Radio Newcastle. It's launch was heavily promoted and significant in the city. Furthermore, all FM-based stations in the United Kingdom have articles. By deleting this, it's essentially opening up a can of worms as to whether local stations are notable at all. It should also be noted that Adam Cuerden's opinion is, like mine (as I created the article), biased on this subject - He originally deleted the article totally out of process, and is biased due to his connections to Hitz Radio UK (Hitz Radio have had problems with one or two members of NE1fm's staff, and they've looked to have many articles deleted because of their own personal issues.)
If this article is deleted, I won't look to have it re-instated again, but I find it absurd that it has even been nominated for deletion - It's an FM radio station, and every FM radio station in the UK has an article. Just because this is the newest one doesn't make it any less notable. The articles does require expansion, but the topic is very much notable. Esteffect 17:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Wait, WHAT?!!! WHAT connections to Hitz Radio? I'm a bloody biology student who listens almost exclusively to classical music!!! Adam Cuerden talk 22:33, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. A further comment from me here - NE1fm is a community radio station. All of the community stations in the UK are listed on this Wikipedia page. Many, as can be seen, have articles. Deleting this article would certainly raise the question as to whether any of them are notable. I also add that many internet-based stations that have nowhere near the exposure or reach of NE1fm currently have articles also. I'd also finally like to request Adam Cuerden not close this AFD as he has ended others on other topics he is biased about early. Thanks. Esteffect 17:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Please prove your claims of bias, or retract them, and please stop repeating them. See WP:NPA. Corvus cornix 22:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Thought If this article is deleted, then I move that every article about an organisation which launched within the last six months be given the same treatment and deleted as well. Eugenespeed 10:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

    • That's hardly the main point: It's launched very recently and the page does not assert notability, and, despite the personal attacks, no-one has made any attempt to make such an assertion. The only argument so far made is "There's other articles on similar subjects." However, those articles (presumably) assert notability. This one doesn't. Its recent launch just makes its failure to assert notability all the more glaring. Adam Cuerden talk 11:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Launch date is irrelevant in my opinion.

Reasons article should be kept:

1. It is the first full time non-commercial community radio station in the Newcastle / Gateshead area.

2. It is the end product of approximately 10 years of other lead up broadcasts.

3. It is the official broadcaster of Newcastle's The Green Festival

4. In it's first week, Maximo Park were guests on the station. (Al Smith's - The Tuesday Club)

5. It is fully licensed by OFCOM

6. It has recieved write-ups in local Newcastle based print media. (e.g The Evening Chronicle)

7. It is on air now (and online) and people are listening to it.

8. It is listed on UK Community Radio websites.

9. A team from the station was invited to partake in the North East Radio Academy fun night.

10. It has a parent company, who are council funded, called CBIT (Community Broadcast Initiative Tyneside)

Well, if any of that was in the article - particularly Evening Chronicle writeups - we wouldn't be having this conversation. Add it! =) Adam Cuerden talk 11:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • facepalm* I just looked up the Evening Chronicle article. This is it. A short sidebar merely saying it launched isn't a non-trivial source. Adam Cuerden talk 04:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep. This has been in the Evening Chronicle actually, we have the article in the radio station - although it was not published on their website. We could upload the article after scanning it in, but no doubt you would then complain of the validity of the article. Again, I question your actions in deleting articles in the past for a number of reasons which I will not go into. It's insane to say a new community radio station (the first for Newcastle & Gateshead) is not notable. If you actually did any research you would see we were operating, we are on the Ofcom website, we're broadcasting on FM and online and the list goes on... In my opinion - if you delete this, again you will have deleted an article you have voted on, and as already stated, will question the validity of all articles on radio stations. I would be inclined to raise this with the rest of the Wiki admins. I personally question your increased interest in NE1fm & its participants and motives for 'just wanting to delete it' Kev Akas 13:47, 21 June 2007 (GMT)
  • Strong Keep. The station is significant enough within the Tyneside and broadcast communities for people to want further information regarding it, and find other information about people and shows associated with it. A small entry on a global community radio page is not going to satisfy the appetites of most people looking for a definition of it, and judging by the forums these people are likely to be significant in number.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.193.115 (talk • contribs)
  • Delete. I can't find any reliable sources about it, and none are present in the article. My opinion could change if the article is improved, but since I don't see any way to improve it mysekf right now, this is how I feel. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 03:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.