Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NCFL Grand National 2006

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. – Will (message me!) 19:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NCFL Grand National 2006

Delete Annual tournament held by a notable organization is not notable simply by association. After deprodded, the dissenter compared the tournament to the World Cup and the Superbowl. The article itself is nothing more than a collection of lists rather than an actual encyclopedia article that could inform people who are interested. If anything, this should be incorpriated into the NCFL article, but it certainly doesn't deserve a page of its own. Delete as listcruft and NN except by association pm_shef 02:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep I believe my original words on the article's discussion page will suffice: "I have challenged the deletion of this article for the following reasons: This is the second-most important speech tournament in the US, open to far more than just the "Catholic home school debate" that the claimant mentioned. (In fact, it is open to both public and private schools.) There is substantial precedent for making articles for each year's version of an event - see the Super Bowl or the World Cup - and, even if this is a speech tournament, I believe that there is a strong enough speech community to churn out plenty of info for articles like this one. (See Victory Briefs Daily [1] for just what I mean, though you might have to check a few months back to find the NCFL and not NFL stuff.) --JKLPirate 02:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, the tournament itself does not have its own website and the first Google hit that appears is Wikipedia. Does not have much encyclopedic value. --Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 04:06, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Not true - see here [2] --JKLPirate 04:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and inasmuch as a given iteration of a NCFL competition is non-notable, IMHO, and I'm not at all sure there's anything valuable to merge here (the fact of the location and dates of the competition is surely well-available and less-than-substantive, such that, with the information's having been merged into the NCFL article, this article could be deleted without our incurring GFDL troubles). Joe 04:07, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per T&E:FEQ ~ trialsanderrors 05:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to NCFL's page. There's not much here that couldn't adequately be covered in the NCFL page. —C.Fred (talk) 18:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination. High school debate tournaments, even national ones, are not the focus of general public attention in the way that professional athletic events such as the Super Bowl and World Cup are. --Metropolitan90 18:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, not notable in the least. --Coredesat 21:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep-If an event which had 3,000 participants natinwide is not notable, then maybe we should eliminate such events as olympic years, specific superbowls, world series etc.

Jeeps2009 21:24, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment That's ludicrous. The Olympics and Superbowl are watched and/or attended by millions, if not billions of people. Both events generate billions of dollars in revenue, the olympics attract particpants from literally every nation on earth. How anyone can try and draw similarities between this event (which doesn't even have its own permanent website) and the Olympics, is beyond me. - pm_shef 00:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.