Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muzzamil Mirza

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete – no references, original research, fails WP:BIO. If the article's creator wanted something kept confidential, he shouldn't have put it on Wikipedia. - KrakatoaKatie 12:23, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Muzzamil Mirza

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• Deletion query. Has been prodded "Completely unreferenced" and "Unreferenced claims of royalty". Anthony Appleyard 09:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - I agree, Muzzamil Mirza, has lots of question marks in brackets, are these really suitable in a newly created article? I know he's suppose to be some sort of royalty, but if he is really that notable, and the user that created the article knows alot about that individual, then sources and references should be provided in abundance. But this is not what is here. Rudget _{Contributions} 15:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

• DO NOT Delete Evening, A official duplicate which was created in 1986 has arrived in New York City. It is currently in my personal possession, with up most care, however, It needs to be translated, and formatted to fit to your needs, I've scanned a short portion for evidence in means of your satisfaction. Please further delay the deletion of this article. The translation and tailoring of this tree may take 2-3 weeks. However, meanwhile, I will work on getting a notarized document stating HRH Prince Muzzamil Mirza's diplomatic status. As in reference to Rudget's comment: "but if he is really that notable, and the user that created the article knows alot about that individual, then sources and references should be provided in abundance. But this is not what is here." (RUDGET)....Sirr, with all do respect, It is not considered very "notable" to "brag" of diplomatic status. To Royals it is like a rap star bragging about his “chedda”. It is something which God Given & earned...God willing, we are dealing with a future world/universal leader, which has a great deal of training, skills, experience, knowledge, put behind and much more which follows. Please understand the fragility of this matter. Good Day & Thank You

Atlas International --AtlasInternational 03:34, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

• Also, it will highly be appreciated if you this dilemma is kept confidential, to an understandable limit & this “conversation is permanently deleted w/ no record keeping” Thank You again

Atlas International --AtlasInternational 03:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

• Page Muzzamil Mirza still does not have any external references at all to prove the claims. If the man Muzzamil Mirza is royalty, then there should be some usable references to him and to his family's kingdom in the public internet. Please supply such references that any user can read online to check up these claims.

  About User:AtlasInternational's talk of confidentiality:

  1. Wikipedia is public access including all users' talk pages.
  2. It is the rule in Wikipedia to keep old discussions accessible to all who want to read them.

  Until then, my recommendation is Delete. The only Muzzamil Mirza who I can find by Google search is a Californian cricketer. Anthony Appleyard 05:33, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as completely unreferenced. Also, to ask for a conversation on a world wide web site to be kept "confindential" seem way too naive - makes me wonder if this does not border on hoax status. --Nehwyn 20:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unreferenced article is either vanity, pure WP:OR, or hoax, we're writing an encyclopedia - without sources this adds nothing but trouble to the project. Carlossuarez46 19:44, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Caslorssuarez46. Karanacs 18:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

DO NOT DELETE!!! Hello again, I had tried to notarize a claim two days ago, in which HRH Prince Muzzamil Mirza's "status" was "noted" by showing legitimate EVIDENCE, by official documents, passports, U.S. Department of State Statements, etc....however, he has to be present in person. He is currently out-of-state...I have emailed the claiming letter to his assistant. This situation will be addressed tomorrow. HRH will have it notarized from wherever he is. He shall send it to me, via U.S. POSTAL SERVICE or COURIER. I have also, to satisfy your need , began scanning the web & have hired a man, in Pakistan, and woman in India, U.S. Department of , to look through modern books stating HRH "status",. If we create a website somehow with junction with State, Govt. Of India, Govt. Of Pakistan, Maybe even Bangladesh, and use it as a reference, will this be eligible to satisfy wikipedia requirements. I letter from U.S. Department of State, a Federal Agency, will be much easier and cost friendly to us. A letter from United Nations is possible too, however, this process may take some more time due to terrorism and current international situations arising. Sirr, kindly may I accentuate, this article is really costing allot of TIME & MONEY to our organization. Please address which method is possible and which will not be accepted. Thank You, Atlas International Organization

P.S. After this “dilemma” is all cleared, I may be possible to provide a PICTURE! And maybe even squeeze a statement from His Royal Highness, Prince Muzzamil Mirza. Atlas International --AtlasInternational 04:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

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