Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murda Mook

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 10:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Murda Mook

Murda Mook (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Biography of a freestyle/battle rapper who appears to be almost entirely non-notable. Aside from the utter trivia in the article, I see that he "is still looking for his record deal". Allmusic lists him with one entry for a track on one album (apparently a compilation). He is featured on a track of "Talib Kweli's critically acclaimed mixtape Confidential Mixtape" which may well be notable but for which we don't have an article. It is not clear to me that battle rappers should be held precisely to WP:MUSIC standard; for example, Serius Jones, who appears to be a small notch up in notability, took part in MTV2's Fight Klub, which is at least a claim to something. I'm not sure where the line is drawn for notability, so I am floating this AfD as a trial balloon. As for references, of course, I don't see any reliable ones, thought he has a fair number of google hits (e.g., youtube videos of battles). Comments? Nominator votes delete, but willing to be convinced otherwise. bikeable (talk) 03:21, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep because it asserts notability by "battles", but there are no cites. Bearian 15:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
• Strong delete No real evidence of notabiliy, no citations, and poorly written to the extent that it would probably need to be entirly rewritten anyways. For all we know, all of those battles he "won" could have been against highschoolers from milwaukee, they really don't prove anything. DurinsBane87 00:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Caknuck 00:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:N. J-stan ^Talk 01:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:N As to being poorly written, etc., that is true but not at issue. Pharmboy 02:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:N Harlowraman 02:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
• Week keep Seems to be a noted underground battle MC. The artists bio[1] claims appearances on BET, MTV2, as well as coverage in XXL, Don Diva, and Dubbs magazines, which if cited would pass WP:N. dissolve^talk 04:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

comment We have no reliable sources for any of that. His own personal MySpace certainly isn't reliable. DurinsBane87 04:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• An appearance in Smack DVD Magazine[2] and Fight Klub on MTV2 (which clips are easily found with a Google search) seem to suggest notablilty to me. dissolve^talk

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.