Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Multiplayer in Halo: Combat Evolved

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was MOVED TO A SUBPAGE OF THE HALO WIKIPROJECT. This is article is a mess, and the delete opinions are absolutely right that this is unsourced and better covered elsewhere. That said, a lot of this could be sourced and either turned into a proper spinoff article of Halo: Combat Evolved or just merged there. I'm going to send this to that project to use as raw material for better articles. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 09:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Multiplayer in Halo: Combat Evolved

Video game cruft. Can be condensed and merged with Halo: Combat Evolved. Doogie2K (talk) 19:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - as it is, this is a terrible article full of original research and individual weapon listings for each map. After deleted, if anyone wants to start a more encyclopedic article complete with (gasp!) sources, I would not oppose that. However, this article is bad to the point that I don't want to see anyone base a new article off of this one or even to have it in the article history. Wickethewok 20:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep, starting with a rewrite -- from scratch if necessary. The original Halo did advance the state of multiplayer gaming, and its place in gaming history is based as much on the success of its multiplayer as on its allegedly compelling story, so a separate article on the subject would be justified. However, after wading through this article, I had learned very little about the advances Halo actually made; most of this is an overdetailed exposition of all the aspects of Halo multiplayer that didn't set it apart from previous games!
  Well, the bit about warthog jumping was quite interesting, but that section seems to be talking about a trick that was developed and normally performed in single-player mode... — Haeleth Talk 22:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - already covered elsewhere, better. Artw 22:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per the fact that Wikipedia is not a game guide which this article is and the article also violates WP:NOR. Whispering 23:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. SevereTireDamage 09:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep Unlike the Halo 2 article, where I said keep, this one seems to be padded out with fluff. It's not original research, though. Things like player culture and gametypes should be covered, but the map list is overly detailed at best and perhaps unecessary. Revise it and see if there's enough left to justify a separate article still. And merge requests shoudl be done with merge tags, not AfDs. Ace of Sevens 10:38, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete People just add junk to it. I rewrote a lot of it, but it's mostly still just rubbish - why should corpse humping, modding and a description of each level be in a multiplayer article? +Fin 15:20, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
• Split into other articles. This article has some valid content, but it really doesn't all belong in the same place like this. -- gakon5 16:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Numerous parts of the article, including about half of the map list, look like they belong in a strategy guide. Woodrow Buzard 02:58, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep per Haeleth and Ace of Sevens. It definitely needs a rewrite to trim out the overly specific map detail (doesn't need weapons lists and pictures for every map), and sources (especially for things like the supposed crotch-humping). --SevereTireDamage 08:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Corpse humping is a fairly common thing in online games, espeically in FPSs; not just in Halo. It's also become a fairly fixated part of FPS subculture. -- gakon5 18:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

• Good, then it shouldn't be hard to find sources for that particular aspect. Wickethewok 03:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

• Condense and merge to Halo: Combat Evolved. The original research, unencyclopedic information and generally low quality of writing make this article impossible to keep, but there are some elements here that could be used in Halo's article. JimmyBlackwing 17:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - there is already a brief and sufficient overview of this information in the parent article, no need to merge anything. Proto::type 11:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to Halo: Combat Evolved. Or at least look over this to see if anything can be added to the Halo article. --Quadraxis 20:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep or merge until a properly sourced article on multiplayer can be written. It has encyclopedic potential, but the material needs a rewrite. — TKD::Talk 23:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It occurred to me that another option would be to merge this with any encyclopedic content from List of multiplayer gametypes in Halo 2 and List of multiplayer maps in Halo 2 to form Multiplayer in the Halo series. — TKD::Talk 08:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I suport this. There's a lot of overlap, particularly in game types. Ace of Sevens 09:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment to the closing admin: Please delink and delete {{halomap}} as a {{db-author}} request if this is anything but outright kept the list of maps is condensed or deleted. That template serves only to aid in linking to subsections of this article, and is pointless without this article. — TKD::Talk 23:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.