Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mudgirls

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete due to lack of sources. W.marsh 18:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mudgirls

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Probable hoax, possibly nn. OSbornarfcontributionatoration 18:17, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Pardon me, I'm new to wikipedia editing, but why on earth would this be a hoax? I'm in the process of editing this page and am about to add the link to their official site: http://www.mudgirls.ca/. Perhaps this adds credibility. Emcjagger 18:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy Delete - It may add credibility but it doesn't add notability. There is no assertion of notability in this article much less any references. I rather doubt that any will be found that meet WP:ORG. ---- WebHamster 18:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Sorry if it seems we are being unkind to a newcomer. But anyway this process most likely will take 5 days so there is time to debate. The slang nn above means not notable. Many groups exist. To show this one needs its own article what would help is multiple non trivial reliable sources. This site doesn't count since it is not independent of the topic. If you have them, please share and I (and others) will change mind. The basis for speedy seems weak to me. What is the rush? Obina 18:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • I see. Well, Mudgirls have gotten a lot of media coverage in print, radio and TV, but most of this has been by small local publications who do not have online archives, so I haven't been able to find many on the web. I will have to contact the founder to get more references, which may take a few days (she lives in the woods). Meanwhile, I have added a couple links to what online articles I have found. Do blogs count as secondary sources? Emcjagger 19:17, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Blogs usually don't count. --SmokeyJoe 09:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, very interesting but unfortunately non-notable. --Dhartung | Talk 20:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. This enterprise is somewhat local to me so I might be exhibiting homegrown bias, but I suggest that the "Shared Vision" cite lends a reasonable amount of notability; it's an arm's-length third-party source. I wish there was more ... as above, I think this is very interesting, but I can't find any further sources. Unfortunately this one [1] is an ad for a course they offer, because it's also third-party. Perhaps this could be merged with an article on cob construction? Accounting4Taste 21:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • This The globe and mail is a more general recent article about the type of building that these women are doing. Regrettably it doesn't mention the group's name. Accounting4Taste 21:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment So perhaps make an article about the type of building and mention this group.Obina 20:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. I herd u don't liek it. Burntsauce 22:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep as of now the mud girls do not look notable, but I can imagine they have been noted. Look for sources that satisfy WP:SOURCES and WP:VERIFIABILITY. Good hunt.--Victor falk 03:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep They have had local publicity. Whether or not they have a long term future is debatable. (There are other feminist communes, though they tend to be publicity shy.)jonathon 09:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per Dhartung, sorry. --Groggy Dice T | C 15:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - Lack of sufficient reliable source material for the topic to meet the general notability guidelines. Comment Since 1997, Mud Girl (or Mudgirl) has been a notable all-female pop/rock quartet from Vancouver, B.C. In 2007, non-notable Nashville's Brenda Best became infamous as the "Mudgirl" in Brad Paisley's "Mud on Tires" video. I could not find anything on Lasqueti Island Mudgirls or Lasqueti Island Mud girls. If someone is interested in keeping or recreating the article, they may want to search each of the alternative weekly newspapers for article material. The alternative weekly newspapers are listed at List of alternative weekly newspapers. -- Jreferee t/c 17:41, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


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