Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mount Sapo
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was KEEP. — JIP | Talk 10:30, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Mount Sapo
Patent nonsense: Mount Sapo is about a "fictional mountain" that figures in no work of fiction, but is being used to justify curious and problematic edits of the article about soap. FWIW sapo is just Latin for "soap." Smerdis of Tlön 18:34, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Sounds like it could be expanded and it's a possible search term. --howcheng [ talk • contribs • web ] 23:43, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
- Update. A Google search reveals that references to the supposed "Mount Sapo" are starting to pop up in various allegedly factual histories of soap, such as this one.
Mount Sapo is apparently a hoax of some sort, and it may be that the hoax may have originated on Wikipedia, and our article on soap is being used to propagate it in any case. Patrizia Gardena's history of soap is much more in accordance with the facts. FWIW, Roman burnt sacrifices contained not enough fat to make much soap with, since the Romans burnt only the bones and inedible entrails, and sensibly kept the meat from sacrifices for themselves.
I am no longer sure what to do with this page, since the hoax appears to have spread to the outside world. I hope some kind of consensus can be reached, though. Smerdis of Tlön 13:38, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. The Mount Sapo and the Soap article both state it's a legend. I can assure you that it's not a hoax that started on Wikipedia. --Brunnock 16:00, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- At minimum, the Mount Sapo article needs to be made clearer about this. The text "Mount Sapo is a fictional place, used to substantiate a mythologic rewriting of the history of soap, which is often claimed to explain the origins of the name" makes it sound like it's talking about the history of soap on Wikipedia. This was no doubt the mistaken impression I got from first learning about "Mount Sapo" here, but it's one that others may share. Smerdis of Tlön 19:31, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- I have substantially rewritten the article, to make it clearer that this is a circulating hoax, and explaining in more detail why it is implausible. I am going to leave the VfD up for now, just because I'm not 100% sure that everyone will want an article devoted to this sort of fakelore, but I am switching my vote somewhat reluctantly to keep now.
- At minimum, the Mount Sapo article needs to be made clearer about this. The text "Mount Sapo is a fictional place, used to substantiate a mythologic rewriting of the history of soap, which is often claimed to explain the origins of the name" makes it sound like it's talking about the history of soap on Wikipedia. This was no doubt the mistaken impression I got from first learning about "Mount Sapo" here, but it's one that others may share. Smerdis of Tlön 19:31, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
