Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mormonism and violence

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep --JForget 23:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mormonism and violence

Mormonism and violence (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Delete: Utter nonsensical POV-ridden hodge podge. Anything worthy to mention should be mention in Mormonism. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 20:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete - well documented and sourced, but utterly unfitting for an entry in itself, as well as POV. As said above, if there is anything relevant, it should be included in the main article. --Kristjan Wager (talk) 20:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep -- There are hundreds of Mormonism-related articles, and everything can't fit in the article Mormonism. This particular article is a reposatory for many subjects that do not fit in other articles. There is a great deal of literature on the intersection of Mormonism and violence. In particular, there has been a great deal of violence against Mormons in the 19th century, and Mormons have distinctive doctrines relating to violence, much of which is found in the Book of Mormon. There is plenty of unique material here for an article. The remedy for any NPOV problems is to fix them, not delete the article. COGDEN 23:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep Not seeing the nonsensical POV. The nomination appears to be frivolous. Colonel Warden (talk) 00:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - While I will admit there are POV concerns over this article, it is a valid topic in terms of addressing the role of violence in the LDS movement and in particular its impact upon the LDS Church. This is not something that ought to be shoved into one subsection of the Mormonism article, but deserves its own independent article. Due to the sheer volume of citeable references for this topic alone, fail to see why this was even raised as an AfD candidate. Even topics that merit their own separate articles like Mountain Meadows Massacre, Utah War, Danites, can and mostly are addressed as mere sub-sections to this article. I agree that some cleanup ought to occur, but does that justify deletion just because it is poorly written? --Robert Horning (talk) 12:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, per Robert Horning. I also see Kristjan Wager's point though, but think those issues can be fixed with some rephrasing (particularly in the lede) and minor structural reorganization. -- Fullstop (talk) 15:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per Robert Horning. Edison (talk) 17:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge with History of Mormonism and cleanup re NPOV Plutonium27 (talk) 20:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong keep This article documents a subject that is very notable, and needs coverage in a proper orderly fashion. If merged into "History of mormonism", the relation mormon doctrine has with violence, and the relation this doctrines have to their history, is lost and produces an (involuntary?) POV. Article is very useful, of interst to a large audience, and there are tons of sources to improve it. Gorgonzola (talk) 13:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.