Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Morag Tong

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus; keep. Johnleemk | Talk 12:20, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Morag Tong

A fictional secret society in a single XBox game. Well written but not very encyclopedic. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Mages Guild. I vote delete. — JIP | Talk 11:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete content better off on dedicated fansites. Though I am myself a fan of the Elder Scrolls games & universe Wikipedia is not the place for this. The external link to til.gamingsource.net at Elder Scrolls do nicely. Please note, this is not only limited to an Xbox game, is from the ES universe. Scoo 11:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, based partially on the precedent set by allowing a number of other articles relating to the same game series (see Morrowind). Fiction does not preclude an article's worthiness on Wikipedia, and the Elder Scrolls universe had a surprising depth to it, comparable to what one could find in a popular movie, television, or written fictional series. There are a number of articles on obscure parts of the Star Wars and Lord of the Rings universes, after all. Deadsalmon 12:20, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Comment. Could someone more knowledgeable than myself find if there's a ES Wiki for the article to be moved to in case of deletion? My limited knowledge of how the wikis work prevents me from figuring it out at the moment. Deadsalmon 12:40, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Comment. There is an Elder Scrolls wiki located at UESP, but they've been having DNS problems according to their cached google page. JaKaL! 18:52, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't think a video game should be compared in any way to cultural staples like Star Wars and LOTR, even one with this much depth. I say trim and merge with Elder Scrolls. PJM 12:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, Wikipedia covers plenty of fictional universes, including computer games (e.g. Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter and others) and this one is undoubtedly significant (it spans three games with another coming soon). The Morag Tong is in important part of it, with a detailed background that is interesting but too long to merge elsewhere. --Malthusian (talk) 14:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Support proposed merge into a new Guilds of Morrowind article (see nothing wrong with keeping, but seems to be little chance of that). --Malthusian (talk) 10:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I usually agree with Malthusian, but in this case I am on the opposite side of the fence. I think this stuff should be sloughed off to fansites, and not choke up the resources here since this stuff is inherently unencyclopedic. If the Elder Scrolls article is too long to accommodate this, then it should be trimmed (I mean it IS just a video game) to allow this type of content to be domesticated. Delete Eusebeus 15:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge with either The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, or The Elder Scrolls. I love the game, but this specific element doesn't need its own article. This information would in fact be most at home in an article along the lines of Guilds of Morrowind, or Guilds of The Elder Scrolls. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 16:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep --Revolución (talk) 02:09, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge. —Quarl (talk) 2006-01-11 02:54Z
  • Merge as per PeruvianLlama into a future article that would deal with guilds/factions/powers etc in the Elder Scrolls universe. Scoo 09:17, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --Terence Ong Talk 14:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - Unlike the articles The Mages Guild and The Arena Guild, this article is actually pretty well written for a substantial element in the Elder Scrolls Universe. Although I wouldn't mind a merge to form a Factions of the Elder Scrolls. If people are that bothered, then please take a look at Category:Great Houses of Vvardenfell, they could be merged into a Houses of The Elder Scrolls article. Note that the things like The Mages Guild and the Morag Tong aren't just featured in the game Morrowind but the entire The Elder Scrolls series. - Hahnchen 18:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.