Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moonn D)))

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The result of the debate was Delete. (Anon votes do not count) -- AllyUnion (talk) 00:50, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moonn D)))

This is band vanity. They are also not the first tribute band to a tribute band, I know for a fact that Bjorn Again have a tribute band (as well as the several other bands using the same name). Rje 01:00, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Not notable enough to be independently verifiable - David Gerard 01:07, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Del))). Mikkalai 02:06, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, not notable enough, possible vanity. Megan1967 03:31, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Delete non-notable, vanity band article. --Deathphoenix 02:44, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Delete doesn't meet WikiProject:Music's guidelines for inclusion, and no evidence of notability is given. Tuf-Kat 05:52, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)

Don't delete They are an obscure band that few people are likely to have heard of and the article plainly says they are 'possibly' the first tribute band to a tribute band, which is description, in order to tell people something general about them. They are verifiable if people took the time to Google them (and you get 3980 results - so there!). God

Do not delete. They are notable under criterion #7 - certainly the most well-know drone doom metal band in their city. And it's not a band vanity, they are Polish and the article was posted by someone from England.

I have googled them and could not confirm that they are the most well known doom metal band in their city. Because verifiability is so important, please point to where this is documented. Thanks. Tuf-Kat 02:33, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

Also, please note that assumptions are unwarranted. Encyclopedia articles do not assume, they give facts. Tuf-Kat 02:35, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

See the doom-metal.com bandlist (http://doom-metal.com/frame_bandlist.html). They are the only band in the drone doom subgenre listed in all of Poland. Not just in the town of Ilawa.

I see eleven Polish bands listed there. Or are you referring just to drone doom? (the term drone doom does not appear to be used at the site you linked to, nor in the article in question) If so, one band does not make a scene (and the guideline says it must be the most prominent band in a local scene). Also, the article itself must make the claim of notability. This means you need to change the text of the article to explain why this band is worth noting and preferably provide a citation or two. Tuf-Kat 22:15, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

• Do not delete. Zaraza The creation of Moonn D))) was announced quite a few months ago at the doom-metal.com forums, they are a legit band, even if somewhat obscure...but then, so is most of doom metal.

• Delete. Mrmiths An unnotable contribution to drone doom.

• Do not delete [Insig.] Delete? Why? Sure it could do with an edit to fix the statement so that it cannot be missinterpreted. Besides, it is the first drone/doom band to ever emerge from Poland. However a lot of people here seems to think that obscurity means unimportant. Only around 20 people speak volapük, so why not delete it's entry?

• Do not delete. The article does mention drone doom, when it speaks of "uber-slow drone riffs". Doom-metal.com does have drone doom listed if you click on the "All Bands" bar at the top of the bandlist (top left of screen)and scroll through the genres to drone doom, many drone bands are listed there including Sunn O))) and Earth, the two bands which the author mentions. As for being the most prominent band in a scene, surely that means 99% of bands do not deserve to be listed here seeing as only one (maybe two) bands can invent a style of music. Eg, Napalm Death should be the only Grindcore band listed but they are not.

• Do not delete [Doom-metal.com site owner] As far as I am aware the only Polish Drone band, the only Drone tribute band to a tribute band, infact probably the only doom tribute band to a doom tribute band. Perhaps not as well known as ABBA, actually pretty sure of that. But they are quite unique within the entire doom-metal genre. And in all honesty, what can it hurt? It's hardly a vanity entry as the band didn't submit it themselves, nor are after any claim for glory. And doom-metal as a whole is already a strugling enouth genre as it is.

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