Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mondi Fashion

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. — JIP | Talk 21:42, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mondi Fashion

Tagged for speedy as a blatant ad. Once I removed the contact info, and well, blatant ads, it ought to come here rather than go directly under the axe. -Splash^talk 00:12, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

• Weak keep as notable. I'm not sure if I'm searching right but "MONDI" coupled with "fashion" returns 45,000 results. Ifnord 00:18, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Ifnord --YixilTesiphon ^{Say hello} Consider my Wikiproject idea 01:01, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
• My search for "Mondi Fashion" gets 327 hits see [1] including results from a yearling sale with a horse of that name which suggests it isn't that notable. No Google news stories [2] and 51 Google images [3] most from one web site. Delete. Capitalistroadster 02:36, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

• I searched for them under separate terms, when I went to the combined link by Capitalistroadster I found an ad on Google to search for Mondi on eBay. I did, and returned 150 articles for sale. That favourably compares with the 250 for "Dooney and Burke". (Big brand, at least for my wife...) I dunno, but it still seems notable to me. Ifnord 04:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete, advertising, non-notable company. User:Zoe|^(talk) 04:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
• Weak Keep, I'm not sure how the article could be improved, but I've heard of Mondi and lack of Google hits for "Mondi Fashion" is probably less due to non-notability and more due to the fact that they just go by "MONDI". The "fashion" is needed to differentiate them from other businesses called Mondi; it's not part of their name. - AdelaMae ^{(talk - contribs)} 06:53, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
• Comment There's a fair amount of language suggestive of notability (eg. mention of offices in two countries, talks of being "consistently ranked as one of the premium brand in German and European fashion", 38 year-old company), but nothing that really constitutes such a claim, and I note that the company doesn't have an article on de.wikipedia. One google hit I saw talked about winners of the Mondi fashion prize: if that is awarded by this company and has cachet, that would constitute a claim of notability for me. --- Charles Stewart 18:50, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Postscript Nope: it's a prize awarded by the Mondi subsidiary of Anglo-American. This prize might be inflating the hit counts from other posters. --- Charles Stewart 18:54, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

• Borderline delete - Noteworthy fashion companies tend to generate a lot of attention: this article really charts the trials and tribulations of a label without saying why it matters. At least I believe that it is a fashion company that tries to be upmarket --- Charles Stewart 18:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom Mac 07:59, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.