Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MonaVie

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. The article certainly is about the company, not about açaí itself, the redirection and typing-in of which is a different matter. -Splash^talk 01:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MonaVie

• Delete - advertising Badagnani 00:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Tearlach 01:08, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete for being an advertisment without any encyclopedic value, although I am amending this to allow that it could be made a useful article, after reading later comments. Jfiling 05:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Although, after reading the latest reverts and additions, I'm doubting that this could ever be anything more than an advertisement. At least pages for Coca-Cola and Pepsi have historical and cultural relevance to them. Jfiling 06:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Promotional; not notable Tom Harrison ^Talk 01:57, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• We do not delete articles because they are read like advertising. Read Wikipedia:Deletion policy for instructions on how to deal with this sort of prose. Thanks. -- Perfecto 02:03, 5 January 2006 (UTC) (P.S. I'm sure that you can find other reasons, though.)

Nothing is wrong with this post. Keep in mind there are other brand names which are posted here. Does this mean we are going to remove Coke, Pepsi, 7up, etc...?

• Comment There is a relavant policy under discussion for notability criteria of corporations. Note that it is not yet policy. --Hansnesse 02:14, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep As noted in the article, the products have been discussed in national (US) media, which is notable enough in my mind. I should add I am dubious of the claims made, and perhaps a neutrality tag is more appropriate. --Hansnesse 02:23, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

It looks like the mentions on Oprah and by Doctor Perricone were mentions of "Acai fruit," not of MonaVie. I don't really find any media coverage of the company, but maybe I'm overlooking it. Tom Harrison ^Talk 02:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - mostly as per Hansnesse, even though the Janos is being annoying in a revert war to remove the AfD tag from the top of the article. I think an NPOV tag is appropriate, though. Dharmabum420 02:52, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. No evidence of notability. Wikipedia is not a repository for miscelany info appearing on American TV shows. And for God's sake, the name is açaí. :-) If you write it "acai", it becomes "a-KA-ee". If you want to adapt it to the English orthography, do it properly. (Ok, I'm ranting) JoaoRicardo^talk 14:26, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, that explains why I didn't find an article about it. Would a redirect using English orthography be appropriate? Tom Harrison ^Talk 14:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Tom, I didn't understand what you are proposing. Are you suggesting a redirect from the English spelling of "açaí" to açaí? If that is the case, I surely agree, and I would make one myself if only I knew what is the English spelling for this word. Googling came up with "assai", which looks awkward to me, and is ambiguous (it could be pronounced "a-SAY", couldn't it?). JoaoRicardo^talk 19:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, a redirect from the English spelling. I have no idea even how to type in "açaí," except to copy and paste;) Is there an official method of transliteration? If I search Google for açaí I get lots of links to acai. That may be wrong, but if it is a common misspelling, maybe a redirect or dab would be useful. Tom Harrison ^Talk 20:33, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
      • There must be some rules for transliterating Portuguese into English, but I don't know them. Well, let's leave it at that for the time being. :) JoaoRicardo^talk 04:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
    • No, even in English, Portuguese and Brazilian words and names should be written with the correct accents, tildes, cedillas, etc., as in São Paulo. It's not difficult at all to get these characters in word processing or Internet these days. Badagnani 04:35, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
    • In Microsoft Word, type CONTROL-comma, then type "c" and you will get the "c" with cedilla. To type "í," type CONTROL-apostrophe, then type "i" and you will get an "i" with acute accent. Or just go go to the Wikipedia article on açaí, which redirects from "acai." Badagnani 22:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
    • In Wikipedia, when editing look down below the edit screen and you will see all these characters there for you in blue. Just click on the character you need and it will be inserted into the article. Badagnani 22:19, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
      • D'oh! I'd seen those characters down at the bottom, but it had never occured to me to use them. Thankς! Tom Harrison ^Talk 11:45, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete reads as advertising copy, and does not meet WP:CORP. "MonaVie is certainly “On the Move” and as they have entered their 2nd year, the news of the nutritional benefits of the Acai Berry is continuing to spread." "It’s rich blend of wonderful and forgotten fruits..." Plus a long list of questionable health claims. If you took out the ad copy, not sure what would be left. CarbonCopy (talk) 23:23, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete the article makes a case for the importance of the fruit, not for the importance of the company, which is clearly in the early stages of development. Chick Bowen 23:45, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.