Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar

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I don't think the subject of this page is notable per WP:BIO1E. The event he is notable for is, of course, well-known within UNC, but is it notable by Wikipedia standards? Most sources are local to the Triangle. A secondary issue is a large part of the page is also a cut and paste of various letters. It's been a couple of years since the event, so hopefully notability is easier to gauge now. Artichoke2020 (talk) 23:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Strong Keep Keep and Move - Appears to be WP:NOTABLE to me as has multiple secondary sources. If there is a copyvio issue from "cut and paste of various letters" then please detail it. Nk.sheridan   Talk 23:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
The two sections that are letters. I don't know if they are strictly speaking copyvios.
Is it Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar who is notable, or the event? Should the page be renamed to reflect the event over the person. My feeling that it's the event, and so if the event meets WP:N then maybe the page should be moved. If consensus is the person is notable I'm happy for it to stay as is. Obviously if neither, then delete. Artichoke2020 (talk) 23:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I think I've fixed the letters / quotes issue. I've also tidied some information that's actually in Wikiquote and Wikisource and probably doesn't need to be duplicated here in full. Artichoke2020 (talk) 00:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Comment I'd agree with User:Artichoke2020 that it is the event which is notable rather than the person so have changed my opinion to move, perhaps to Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar SUV attack as suggested. Nk.sheridan   Talk 17:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep: the guy ran his car into people intentionally for political/religious reasons--a very unusual event. A2Kafir (talk) 01:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Exactly - event - should we move to a page about the event? (Though I'm not sure I agree it's very unusual from a worldwide perspective.) Artichoke2020 (talk) 02:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Comment If this is notable as an event, I'm thinking of something like a move to something along the lines of Taheri-azar incident (or at least something better than that). Any suggestions? Artichoke2020 (talk) 02:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Move to March 2003 UNC attack (or something like that) and modify accordingly. What is notable here is the event and its aftermath, not so much the person himself; all the coverage available seems to be primarily about the event. In fact, the current article already reads and is structured largely as an article about the event, so there would not be that much to change. Nsk92 (talk) 03:30, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep and only move to another name if there is another name by which the event is known (i.e. avoid original research. There is no difference in Wikipedia policy depending on how the article is named; we can satisfy all relevant policies under the present name. For some reason changing the name makes sense to some editors and affects AFD outcomes, but there is no policy-based reason for changing the name. --Dhartung | Talk 06:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong keep - ...and preferably move it to a better name. asenine say what? 06:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Several sources use "SUV attack" in their headlines, so my proposal for move would be to Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar SUV attack. I think leaving the name as it is implies a biography. Artichoke2020 (talk) 15:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - As is. The man is the cause of the event. SuMadre (talk) 22:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.