Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mississauga City Council

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 05:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mississauga City Council

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Even if the town is notable by default, the current town council probably isnt notable Mbisanz 04:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep - are you infering everthing in Category:Canadian city councils in not notable? Being the closest city to the Megacity of Toronto (we are talking inches here) (and possibly the target of annexation) would tend to suggest the opposite in this perticular case. Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 09:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Was not familiar with that category. Just that in articles about municipalities, even supervisors/mayors are usually not notable. By virtue, a town council wouldn't be either. And given frequent elections, it would be difficult to maintain for a large number of towns/cities. Mbisanz 15:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - most of the individual councillors are probably non-notable but the council as a governing body certainly is. The article is simply a valid stub in need of a great deal of work. Euryalus 11:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Mississauga is no town, it is one of the largest cities in Canada. -- Earl Andrew - talk 11:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. This is a city larger than Fort Worth, Texas. We don't need articles on every supervisor, but it's a good place to list them when we don't, and of course the "town" council is going to receive coverage. --Dhartung | Talk 22:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Definitely notable as the governing body of a large city. Finding multiple independent sources asserting that notability should be straightforward. -- Mattinbgn\talk 23:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep -- I suggest just doing quick 30-second Google News and Google News Archive searches before going to the work of nominating an article for AfD:
Mississauga is the 6th largest municipality in Canada with a population > 600,000. It would rank 17th in the U.S., 1st in Ireland, 2nd in New Zealand, 6th in Australia and 3rd in England (I couldn't find U.K. stats). A Canadian city's failure to field its own NHL team does not deprive its council of notability -- just prestige. (As a consolation prize, they do have their own snake, albeit misspelled) --A. B. (talk) 17:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment While I agree with your reasoning, just a small correction about the comparison with Australia. To compare apples with apples, you should be comparing against this table, which lists municipalities (Local Government Areas in Australian terminology) in which case Mississauga City Council would rank 2nd in Australia.
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletions. -- A. B. (talk) 17:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment I don't dispute that Mississauga City is a very notable city and should have an article. What I dispute is that the town council of Mississauga City is notable enough to have an article. y analogy would be that McDonalds is a very notable corporation, but the Board of Directors of McDonalds, in and of itself, isn't notable. Mbisanz 23:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
First, this article very clearly meets the notability guideline. Second, it's one of the older Wikipedia articles -- 3 years old -- and it's been edited by multiple, experienced editors during that time. Third, there are 50+ other articles about various city councils all across Canada. I just don't see any precedent or guideline out there that encourages or even supports deletion -- am I missing something? Is there a way in which this content is not encyclopedic? --A. B. (talk) 00:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking of this guideline in nominating this article: [[1]]. The city of Mississauga is a notable city, the concept of City Councils in Canadian Cities may be notable. The oldest, newest, largest, town councils in Canada might be notable. Even a town council that did something odd, like legalizing the hunting of an endnagered species or restricting voting to people who lived there so many years, could be notable. But as far as I can tell, this town council has not done anything notable. And yes I do see that it is the largest town with a majority female council. But considering the election was a year ago, and there aren't any sources or discussion of this being odd, I' not convinced it is.
Really it could be renamed Government in Mississauga, Ontario and incorporate the list of mayors, ridings, and MYAC that is on the main article page.Mbisanz 18:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
    • While some of the smaller towns councils should not have articles, this one is bigger than most, so Keep. Those articles are also good to merge the town councilors articles. This is a Secret account 19:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Individual city councillors rarely merit their own articles, except in certain special circumstances (Dar Heatherington remains the canonical example), but for major cities a single article about the council body is a perfectly reasonable thing to have. Keep, but merge everybody except Hazel McCallion (the mayor) and Carolyn Parrish (a former federal Member of Parliament) back into the council's article. Bearcat 22:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.