Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Missing Filemon

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was nomination withdrawn. - Mailer Diablo 15:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Filemon

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Non-notable band, only, cannot establish notability outside the province of Cebu. Also, sources are suspect. I'm retracting my nomination and is moving for a KEEP while giving editors time to cite sources. Apparently, down South, they do have a following, and unlike other Cebu-based bands, they do deserve their own place on WP. Who knows that they might be the next Junior Kilat? ;-)Tito Pao 03:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC) Note: unsigned edit was made by Tito Pao

  • Delete as it does not assert notablity per Wikipedia:Notability (music). --Roswell native 03:34, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep (Pasensya na ho kayo, Tito Pao). When I think of BisRock, Missing Filemon is the one that comes to mind. I think as time goes on, they will gain more notability. Their scope is limited to only the Cebuano-speaking regions since Tagalog music has a grip on the whole Philippines. I'm not in the Philippines myself, but I have managed to download their songs (my favorite is Suroy-Suroy), which are available on LimeWire. There are 59 fan videos of Missing Filemon on YouTube. BTW, there are 739 Google hits with about 17 mentions on the Sun.Star Cebu website, so contrary to what Evergreens78 said, it's not a stupid garage band. I'd roughly consider Missing Filemon to be as notable as the Catalan rock group Els Pets, whose fans are limited to Catalan-speaking regions in Europe and nowhere else. --Chris S. 05:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Quite a lot of that rationale isn't relevant. That a band's songs are available for download isn't relevant. Your own subjective opinion of what is and isn't important is irrelevant. And counting Google hits is not research. What is relevant here is whether the band has been independently documented, in depth, in multiple published works. And research involves looking for such things. Please cite sources to show that the WP:MUSIC criteria are satisfied. You can start by citing those newspaper articles that you say exist. Uncle G 14:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Yes, I was aware of that, but my rationales were basically in response to the above comment saying that Missing Filemon was a "stupid garage band." If someone makes a subjective comment I don't agree with, I think I should go ahead and do the same. Subjectivity aside, I thought the Sun Star link, which is a major newspaper in Cebu and other areas, I provided above was sufficient. Further sources are articles from the Manila Times, Cebu Daily News (on the Philippine Daily Inquirer website), the aforementioned Cebu Sun.Star, and here. --Chris S. 23:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
        • If this article will be documented as shown above, I will endorse a keep and withdraw the AfD nomination (speaking of which...how do I do that, btw?) --- Tito Pao 00:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
          • You have to let the AfD run its course if memory serves. --Chris S. 01:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
            • All right, then. I've cut and pasted the sources into the article's talk page. --- Tito Pao 01:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
              • Thanks, and by the way, Tito Pao, you could strike your rationale above and put a "keep" rationale below. --Chris S. 22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I thought this was a glitch Pokémon? JuJube 00:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per all the 3rd party non-trivial mentions by reliable sources supplied by Chris S. (how's that for a Wiki mouthful?) --Oakshade 05:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, WjBscribe 03:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: Per nom, non-notable. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 03:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - It is notable (Google:435,000. Although it isn't the best of hits, it is still good), and should be kept. Rewritten, but kept. DTD(speak)
  • Delete - Fails WP:N and WP:MUSIC.--Bryson 18:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.