Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Missbrukarna
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was DELETE. -Doc ask? 17:15, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Missbrukarna
Band. Quote from this article: ...they received little recognition due to few performances and very limited recordings. They appeared on a tape and a shared a single record together with another local band, "Panik". Consider the >300 Google hits (when excluding Wikipedia mirrors). Delete unless proven to be important for hardcore punk in Sweden. Punkmorten 10:42, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- AAARGH! You were doing so well, with so many nominations. The above, though, looks like a very well-structured, well-informed vote ... but it's still just a vote. Nominations and the arguments they put forth are important as distinct entities from votes. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 16:18, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- For my part, this looks like it fails WP:MUSIC horribly. However, I note that "missbrukarna" gets 36k hits on Google (admittedly, "missbrukarna Hudksvall" gets a much more modest 128); what search terms did you use? Perhaps someone who speaks Swedish could come up with more accurate ways to filter out the false positives. I do note that this webpage states that another band has covered a song by Missbrukarna, which may point to their importance on the Swedish hardcore scene. Or, may not. Sweden, are you listening? fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 16:18, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- I searched for Missbrukarna hardcore. By the way, I speak Norwegian (very similar to Swedish) and I can tell you that missbrukarna means "the abusers". So as a search term on its own it's likely to get a lot of hits. Punkmorten 21:45, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Heh, fair enough. I have a personal rule, "always assume the other person is smarter and more knowledgeable than you are". I would be better off if I followed it more often :-). Cheers, fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 03:36, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
- I searched for Missbrukarna hardcore. By the way, I speak Norwegian (very similar to Swedish) and I can tell you that missbrukarna means "the abusers". So as a search term on its own it's likely to get a lot of hits. Punkmorten 21:45, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. WP:MUSIC is not the end-all be-all yardstick by which all music entries must pass. From the music notability guide: These are simply guidelines "which many editors agree with in principle. However, it is not policy." And most importantly, it clearly states: "Please note that the failure to meet any of these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted". Having said that, the article could certainly use some fleshing out. wikipediatrix 17:54, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Fleshing out with what? As the article states, they received little recognition due to few performances and very limited recordings. Punkmorten 21:45, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Well, a list of those recordings, for starters. And band lineup. And anything else anyone else might know about them... wikipediatrix 04:22, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
- Fleshing out with what? As the article states, they received little recognition due to few performances and very limited recordings. Punkmorten 21:45, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Few performances and limited recordings mean that they fail WP:NMG. Capitalistroadster 23:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Patently non-notable, and when they even mention in the article that they have little recognition and few performances, that makes them non-notable by their own admission. RasputinAXP talk contribs 13:52, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
