Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miseria

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. To the article creator(s)/band members, if you can demonstrate reliable coverage from external, secondary sources, come on by my talk page and leave the links to the articles--I'll be happy to evaluate them and let you know if this article is worth restoring. Otherwise, this has failed our notability guideline for musical groups and should stay deleted. — Scientizzle 17:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Miseria

Miseria (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)
End of Times EP (Miseria demo) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
With Pressure Rising (Miseria album) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Disputed Prod. Does not meet WP:MUSIC - no albums released, no reliable secondary sources. - IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 02:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Speedy Delete A7 Band - superβεεcat  03:14, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete for failing WP:BAND. I bundled their albums into this discussion. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 03:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete all. Notability per WP:MUSIC is unestablished. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • we meet all criteria under the music standards, we have published works in northern california, which are also available nationwide through myspace.com and snocap.com, the first demo we released is fully copyrighted and we own all permissions to it so there is no reason why our pages should be deleted, everything stated on them is factual and can be proven to every extent and in reading wp:music we meet the standards. so we are please asking you to remove the proposal of deletion, thank you. Shadowguy76 (talk) 06:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • MySpace is not a reliable source. We cannot remove the deletion tag because other users have stated that they think the page should be deleted. I, for one, don't see how your band meets WP:MUSIC in any way -- no major label albums, no charted singles, no notable members, no awards, and no assertation of any notability. Just having a MySpace and being known in a small circle is not enough to be notable. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 12:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:BAND --Boss Big (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete although they succesfully weathered MySpace's notoriously stringent application process for bands and acquired a rare and coveted Myspace account (you sure don't see many bands with those!), they still don't pass WP:MUSIC. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Notability per WP:MUSIC  Esradekan Gibb  "Talk" 07:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

as i stated before we are not only on myspace and snocap, we have many news articles from different papers as well, which links were provided for. and wp:music clearly states that you only need to meet one requirement, we meet the first one, it does not state that you have to have a major label release, or to have won an award or anything like that, it merely states that that is one of the requirements that would validate it. and saying that myspace isn't notible displays pure ignorance. it is THE BIGGEST networking and advertising tool on the planet, how can you get any more notible than that. you dont have to win a grammy to be notable, there are tons of bands that haven't won any rewards on wikipedia. there are no rules or guidelines being broken by us having a wikipedia page.

70.134.78.4 (talk) 04:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

and another thing...how are we only known in a small circle when we have fans all over the world, last time i checked that's not too small.

70.134.78.4 (talk) 04:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

that is also something that was stated before, the page was not created by anyone in the band it was created by one of our fans and they told us what was happening and asked us to step in.

70.134.78.4 (talk) 07:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.