Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mirza Ghulam Hafiz

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The result of the debate was KEEP based on majority of voters or default because there was no concensus (9 keep, 4 delete). Mgm|^(talk) 09:18, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mirza Ghulam Hafiz

Appears to be a vanity page.

(Note: above nomination by Ragib)

• Dead guys don't normally write vanity pages, its not written in an encyclopedic fashion but this guy does seem to have been the Speaker of the Bangladesh Parliament 1979-1982, clean-up and keep'--nixie 02:22, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• keepRefdoc 02:33, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Ok, not vanity, but may be a whole lot of cleaning up. The page sounds like an advertisement rather than a biographical info. Also some claims are exaggarated quite a lot. Checking into Bangladesh history or politics, the claims in the article doesn't hold water. Also, some parts look quite odd ... more like a family-sponsored advertisement. So, definitely delete --Ragib 03:22, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, rantish, advertisement. Megan1967 03:37, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as not verifiable (or, if you will, false) Radiant! 09:23, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, and delete any individual parts that are demonstrably false. The main objection to this seems to be the non-neutral POV. I've therefore cleaned up the article, removed some of the more subjective or forward-looking claims, and attempted to make it a neutral POV throughout. (I've refrained from changing any of the factual information, since I'm not qualified to judge its accuracy.) Unless the original writer is making things up wholesale, Hafiz and his wife are both clearly notable. --Jacobw 10:46, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep. The subject was a high-ranking Bengladeshi politician. If that isn't notable, I don't know what is. Remes 14:52, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete agree with Ragib and Radiant. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:06, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Jacobw's cleaned-up page, perhaps mark for requested further fact-checking. Revised article now establishes WP-worthy notability and removed the family and POV problems. Barno 16:11, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• As it is now, it looks perfectly keepworthy. Also, today is my birthday. DS 00:26, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Provided that there can be some references and verification. Srcastic 06:48, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Still needs some more cleanup and verfication, but this guy is obviously notable. We should be very careful about our own systemic bias in considering nominations like these. RadicalSubversiv E 09:38, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable enough to be quoted on Bangladesh government website.

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