Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mindscript (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:59, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mindscript

Deleted via an AfD almost an year ago, so I think another AfD discussion is needed. Proudly announced 1000 downloads last month, and the project exists since two years ago. Article strangely claims it's both open source and free for noncommercial use (implying it's free only for noncommercial use, which goes against the OSD). cesarb 02:27, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Royboycrashfan 02:37, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment a) wikipedia article removal is not an enforcement mechanism for open source licensing; b) downloaded the software for test purposes and it comes with its source and the GPL; c) I have no idea if this is notable or not. Georgewilliamherbert 02:52, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Ardenn 02:54, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
• Google search "Mindscript" first page of 682 hits lists its Sourceforge site and download mirrors, a parked "mindscriptcorporation" domain, this page, and a Lego Mindstorms site. Not much on the second or third pages shows great notability. Google Books search shows only two relevant hits, one on Lego Mindstorms and only one book about distributed computing. Is the Lego connection enough notability? A thousand downloads of something as meaty as this (not just some cartoon icon or some toolbar-with-hidden-spyware) might suggest notability but the article and the Google search don't show much to document it. No vote. Barno 03:03, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Is that the same mindscript? I can't tell from a quick perusal... Georgewilliamherbert 03:14, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

It appears to be the same program as the first AfD, though the write-up is better than I remember the first one being. Unfortunately, once again the author of the article 212.209.39.154 (talk · contribs) has done the same thing -- added links to his project to all the Wikipedia articles that seem to apply (and some that don't, such as Cryptography[1].) However, I'll abstain for now. -- Antaeus Feldspar 03:57, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't mention Mindstorms in the WP article or Mindscript's Sourceforge page, and I haven't dug into Lego's website to find out whether it's the same, so I don't know. Can an editor with knowledge of LEGO Mindstorms tell us whether it's the same software as this article's topic? I think there was even a WikiProject for this stuff, I'll check the list. Barno 03:48, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Nope, no "WikiProject LEGO". There might be a LEGO Wiki on somebody else's servers, if I correctly recall something I read a year ago. Barno 03:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Googling reveals no connection to Lego Mindstorms/Lego Mindscript that I can find. Source code for the Mindscript development environment the AfR refers to contains no references to Lego or RCX (the Lego Mindstorms CPU/controller unit.) Lego Mindscript is intended for programming the RCX controller. The Mindscript referenced by the AfD is intended for creation of platform independant scripts which run on personal computers. Seems to me the creator of this project chose a name that he may not have been aware was already in use by Lego. Guest458 04:50, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• There is an entire (MediaWiki based) Wiki for LEGO related stuff: Brickwiki:Main_Page. It doesn't yet have a MindScript article, and one is wanted, so I'd normally like to suggest a transwiki. I'm not sure how to do it automatedly the way that it's done for other MediaWiki sites. HOWEVER, I do not think this is the same MindScript that LEGO programmable Bricks support (via Brickwiki:Bricx Command Center) so I think I suggest delete barring further clarification. ++Lar: t/c 08:47, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
• Note: relisting 11/02/06, which in your star-time is 10/02/06. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 13:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete --Terence Ong (恭喜发财) 13:43, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.