Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mind Pollution

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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. I count 5 delete votes (including nominator) and 4 keep votes, which is too small a difference. — JIP | Talk 18:55, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mind Pollution

This former band does not meet the guidelines in WP:MUSIC. One of their 'albums' is a demo tape only available from their web site. It is one of three interrelated articles that I am recommeding for deletion as a group. DavidConrad 04:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete. nnbv. -- BD2412 talk 05:03, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete for failing WP:MUSIC. - Mgm|(talk) 09:50, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete per Mgm. KissL 10:08, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete policy DV8 2XL 11:15, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep users:sin-thetik 11:38 August 2005 (EST) the Sin Star page lists a CD released on a record label credited as Mind Pollution. I also will find the others if possible. The Writer did not place it on the Mind Pollution page for some reason. It also states there is no known discorgraphy left for Mind Pollution however as with Sin Star I am very familliar with this band. I can correct the rumors from the facts , rephrase the writing , and get it all within the guidelines.
  • Keep I have edited the Mind Pollution page for the original author in order to meet the criterea. unsigned comment by Sin-thetik 12:33, 31 August 2005
  • Keep. Meets criterion 2 of WP:MUSIC. I think they also meet criterion 3, but I don't know enough about the specific indie labels in question to say for sure. Given that Mind Pollution is notable according to WP:MUSIC, the article should not be deleted. Factitious 11:57, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
How do you figure? There is no verifiable information on any of these albums or tours. There is nothing about them on allmusic. Several of the links they give are dead, several more go to their web site or blogs. They direct people to search for "Mind Pollution" on bandnameregister.com — OK, I did. Result: '"Mind Pollution" is not yet registered with Bandname.com'.
After an unsigned editor (the article creator?) above offered to improve the article, it remains in a poor, semi-literate state with unverifiable vanity bandcruft. (Note to editor: in English there is only one space associated with a comma, and it comes after the comma, not before.)
A Google search for "Mind Pollution" turns up a fair number of hits, but few if any seem to have anything to do with the band. I'm sorry if I'm being harsh, but I still think this article should be deleted. --DavidConrad 04:55, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
(Correction: the unsigned comment was from new user Sin-thetik, who presumably thought the signature in the previous comment would apply to both. It is customary to sign each comment at the end with four tildes, like so: ~~~~.) --DavidConrad 05:04, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - DavidConrad , you obviously aren't checking the sources out for one thing. You keep complaing about all of these external links when they go right to several pages on the net with information about them. Why don't you use your head and Google the names Davien Crow , Alison Bordan , Darien Starr , Nancy Marzulli , and so on and so forth ? For Both Sin Star and Mind Pollution. Davien Crow returns some decent hits. AND YES THE TOURS ARE VERIFIABLE ! all you have to do is use the Internet Archives to visit their former pages. These pages were cached several years ago and you can't alter them past when they are. There is a link to the internet archives (the way back machine) in the sources.
  • Keep They can both be found on [BYOFL.org BYOFL.org]. Honestly the number of sites with info on them is numerous. Perhaps they just arent at the top of the results list ? Especially since they've been broken up a while. I might also add that Davien Crow is a member of BMI. There is a link on the Sin Star page. However you can look up Crow , Davien using the correct paremters (songwriter I think) and it will show up as well.
    • EDIT I have overhauled the entire page. Fixed information, removed promotional or biased language, corrected spelling mistakes (that I found). I added more information and properly cited all references. Hope you guys reconsider. If anything it may be wise to merge Mind Pollution with Sin Star but both currently fit the guidelines under WP:MUSIC and I beleive all of the other broken guidelines have been corrected as well. I am new to Wikipeidia , so please be more constructive with your criticism so that I may donate to articles correctly and provide Wikipedia with new information that it does not yet have.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.