Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Milivoje Božić

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The result was delete. Proto::► 23:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Milivoje Božić

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Lack of sources for this article, possible hoax. The subject is apparently an F1 Grand Prix winner, but I find no such winner, in fact, no Yugoslav winners at all for the competition. 17 unique Ghits, including wikipedia. Ohconfucius 08:35, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment there is not written he won Grand prix in Formula 1, there is written he won Grand Prix and Formula 1 license. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 11:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. MER-C 08:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Apparently Milivoje was a Yugoslav rally driver (he's listed as participating in a 1958 hillclimb), but reports of his fame may be otherwise exaggerated. Looks like Milivoje (and the page Serbi famosi) was deleted off the Italian WP. Tubezone 10:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Doesn't appear a hoax. He won at least one major race (the 1967 European Rally Cup). [1] --Oakshade 23:40, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

That page suggests he was a winner of the Yu Rally, which counts towards scoring for the European Rally Cup, but is the whole Cup itself Bwithh 01:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Maybe not a hoax, but no sources to corroborate/establish notability.--Kubigula (talk) 22:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 00:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per User:Kubigula - The RSJ 00:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as above Bwithh 00:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep he won the first Yugoslavia rally 1967 with Dobrivoje Verovic as co-driver with Zastava 850 S [2]. And in second the same crew end 3rd in total and 1st >1300cc class [3]. Yugoslavia Rally was famous in eastern Europe [4] [5] ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 11:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 11:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

• Weak delete unless third party sources are presented that verify notability. Right now, the only claim to fame for the subject is winning a race that is not notable enough to have an entry of its own. Charlie 12:21, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

But the first race of newly found rally, in 1967. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 12:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - That may be the case. However, that statement is not backed up by a third party source, and indeed was not even present in the article. Charlie 12:33, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Finding online articles from 60s especially from eastern Europe is in many cases impossible. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 12:42, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not asking that an "online" article be provided. Library research works, as well. Note that, from WP:V: "The obligation to provide a reliable source lies with the editors wishing to include the material, not on those seeking to remove it." If a reliable source for this information cannot be located, then by definition the article fails WP:V as unverifiable. Charlie 12:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete unless sources are found to write an article (of more than a sentence). Could be merged if there's a suitable target for it. Trebor 17:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

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